If both the Stevens and Savage names are on the gun, it was made between 1948 and 1991. Model 258 is a double barrel, right? (don't have my reference book at hand) If so, if fully functioning and in decent shape, it should be worth around $250. I just inherited one of the same. The fact that no one knows could be a good indication of the rarity of the item... Mine is well used, and abused, but was used by my dad and uncles, and therefore is worth much more to me than "the market price", what ever that may be. Lack of information doesn't necessarily mean it's rare, just that information on this particular model isn't readily available. This is typical for all Savage and Stevens arms, as the company changed hands many times during the 20th century and in the process many of the records and historical documents were either trashed, lost, or simply forgotten about. Most of the Stevens information you will find will be about the single shot rimfire rifles, while most Savage information will be about the Model 99 lever-action rifles as these are the most collectable arms produced by these two companies. The Savage Arms 258A I have seen is a 20 gauge bolt action clip feed shotgun. I also am trying to find information on it. 1936-1945. The Standard Catalog agrees with the first post - a double barrel boxlock. Actually, if we are in fact referring to the Stevens model 258A, I have one in my lap and it's a bolt-action, magazine fed 20 gauge, single barrel shotgun. I posted the first answer when I was away from my library. Intended to check my references and repost, but somehow didn't until it popped up on my watchlist again. The 1936-45 correct, but it is a bolt action worth $25 to $125 depending on condition.
The Sears Model 3T 22 rifle is a clone of the Winchester 190. Someone has posted a video to YouTube demonstrating the disassembly process. It can be found here...
There is a second video that demonstrates how to reassemble the weapon here...
Janssen & Co, Leige, Belgium became Janssen Fils & Co., c. 1892. Sometime between 1895 and 1914 the company became part of Simonis, Janssen, Dumoulin & Co. They would have marked guns intended for export to the United States "Sons" instead of "Fils".
Yes, they were. Do you have a question about them?..... Perhaps you are having a hard time finding any information on the Savage Arms Corporation Stevens Model 58 Proof Tested 2 3/4" Chamber 12 GA.-B, manufactured in Chicopee Falls, MASS U.S.A. and having no serial #, thus indicating the likelyhood of it's origin falling between the late 1940's and 1969. So was I and apparently we're not alone as is evident by the obviously far educationally superior, original first two comments of this highly intellegent, mature, research intense and resource exhausted response from what must be one of this sites senior tenured members. Poignant and informative, this member surely must be close to the highly honered and revered "Out to FAQFarm Pasture" award. Perhaps we might be graced with a follow-up to this profound beginning with informational links similar to these giving us an idea of the nearly non-exsistant pool of available free information sharing resources on the Savage Stevens Model 58 12 gauge bolt-action shotgun.
1) "http://www.highridgebooks.com/cat49.htm"418) Stevens, J., Arms and Tool Co., Catalog No. 52 Revised. Chicopee Falls, MA: c. 1905. 128 pp., 8vo. Stiff wrappers, lightly worn, torn at top corner of front wrapper. Comprehensive catalogue of Stevens shotguns and pistols, showing each model as well as all component parts broken out. 15 pages of accessories and 15 pages of cartridges. Models of shotgun include both single and double barrel. $175.00
2) "http://oldguns.net/questions/fqsub.php"The Following Information Will Help Us To Answer Your Firearms Question.NOTE - Please do not send us free questions about Stevens, Rohm, Iver Johnson, Harrington & Richardson, Crescent or non-military shotguns.
3) "http://www.savagearms.com/cs_historical.htm"Q. Where do I find information on older model Savage products?
A. Savage Arms is no longer able to access historical information on older Savage, Stevens, or Fox firearms. This information may be available through John Callahan who is an independent arms historian and is not an employee of Savage Arms. Mr. Callahan does not provide parts, gun smith services or offer a locator service for firearms or parts. Please send a detailed letter with:-Your name and address-A phone number where you can be contacted if necessary-The model and/or serial number if available-Any other pertinent informationMr. Callahan will respond with a letter detailing his services. Send theletter to:John Callahan53 Quarry RoadWestfield, MA 01085
Good day, Good luck, Good grief!!!Chicopee Falls, MassachusettsJ. Stevens Arms Company was established in Chicopee Falls in 1864. The facility was purchased by New England Westinghouse in 1916 and for the next four years no Stevens firearms were manufactured. In 1920 Savage Arms of Utica, New York, purchased the plant and produced Stevens firearms there while continuing to make Savage guns in Utica. About 1946 all of Savage's manufacturing was moved to the Chicopee Falls location, then in September of 1981 the company moved all operations to Westfield, Massachusetts.
$100 to $250 depending on condition.
That will depend on what kind of a Springfield Arms rifle it is. The "real" Springfield Arms was founded in 1850, manufactured revolvers that infringed on patents held by Colt, and closed within a year. In the early 1900's, Crescent Arms used the name on a line of inexpensive shotguns. After Savage/Stevens purchased Crescent, the Springfield Arms name was also used on several bolt action and autoloading .22 rifles. The name was discontinued in 1948.
The Stevens Favorites were made from 1893 to 1939. The name "J. Stevens Arms Co" was used from 1920 to about 1948. So yours was made between 1920 and 1939.AnswerI have a Favorite model J Stevens Arms Co rifle that has 1915 stamped on it. It has a hexagon barrel, in very good shape and I believe worth between 4-$600.
springfield arms is a subsidary company of crescent valley arms.had same problem with a double barrel 16ga.,it took 9mths to get little information from a expert on old firearms.best of luck with your search.
correction to answer,should be crescent arms,notcresent valley arms.
hi,i have a Springfield 16 ga pump,model 67 series B.In good condition its worth around $225 I have a 67 F 20 guage that had the original purchase tag when I bought it later on and it was originally bought new in the mid 60's. I have a Springfield Savage 410 pump and it's worth about $200.00.
The Springfield Jr. 22 LR was made by Page-Lewis Arms Co. from 1928 until 1933. Springfield Arms Co. never made a rifle with this name. I must be missing something - my Sprinflield Jr does not have Page-Lewis on it. The barrel is stamped with both Sprinfield Jr (at the breech), and Springfield Arms Company 22LR Model 50 on the barrel itself. There is the Springfield US Armory and Springfield Inc., but neither had anything to do with this gun and there was never a manufacturer named Springfield Arms Company. The name was first used, I think, by Page Lewis and in a confusing mess of purchases of one company by another, it was used by Crescent Firearms, Crescent-Davis, and eventually by the Stevens division of Savage Arms. Stevens guns often seem to have a name marked on the gun and a model number in the reference books, but this time we're lucky and have both on the gun. The Stevens model 50 is a bolt action single shot, so could remotely resemble the US 1903 Springfield military rifle and it wouldn't surprise me if they sold it as a Springfield Jr. I can't find any dates of production, but Stevens stopped using the Springfield Arms name on shotguns in 1948. The only reference I have with values for the Model 50 is several years old, but the top price listed is $150. I'll bet it hasn't gone up too much and an "average" price would be less than $100. This is not really an answer. My husband has a Page Lewis Model 50 Springfield Jr. that needs a part for it, the ejector. Someone lost the one on his rifle. Could you tell us where we might find a part for this? Or find a schematic for it? Thanks a lot. Hope to hear from you. Answer: I have a .22 L.R. Bolt action rifle exactly like the one you are talking about. On the barrel it say's "Page-Lewis Arms Company Chicopee Falls. Mass. U.S.A. 22 L.R. Model 50" and back near the bolt it says "Springfield Jr" ANSWER; I also have a rifle that has Springfield Arms Company Chicopee Falls, Mass. U.S.A. 22 L.R. Model 50 on the barrel and SPRINGFIELD JR. opposite of bolt . I would like to know more history behind this rifle than that which has already been provided. Maybe you could give a site where I might find additional information. ( My gun has been handed down for generations. It's the family Hog killing gun.) Please reply. CHRIS
i am trying to find info on the baker too, mine is a 12ga side by side with the twisted barrel. i found 5 different bakers listed in the 1997 gun trades guide. batavia ejector $774, leader hamerless $450, special $325, black beauty $750, grade r $1000, grade s $765, and paragon $1500-$3700. I'm not sure which if any of these model is mine or how to tell them apart, there is a brief description for each. glen firstname.lastname@example.orgAnswerYou can add three more grades - Paragon Model NN (special order only), Expert Grade, and Deluxe Grade - with even higher prices listed. The Standard Catalog has pictures, but not good enough to really determine the grade of the one in-hand. Most found have only the simplest engraved scene or none at all and have 'been through the mill' with little or no original finish remaining which takes them out of the collector class. The Blue Book indicates that these 'no finish' guns are typicaly priced in the $275-$400 range. AnswerI have a Baker 12 ga. that appears to have the damascus twist barrels, but it is stamped on the sideplate: "New Era Nitro Hammerless." Does this mean it is really a twist-look pattern, and able to take more powerful loads? AnswerBAKER SHOTGUNS ARE ONE OF THE ORIGINAL BIG SIX OF AMERICAN GUNS THIS LIST INCLUDES PARKER, LEFEVER, A.H. FOX, LC SMITH, ITHACA, AND BAKER. BAKERS ARE TRUE SIDELOCK SHOTGUNS AND GRADES ARE DETERMINED BY THE AMOUNT OF ENGRAVING ON THE SIDE PLATES. THE BATAVIA LEADER AND BLACK BEAUTY FOR EXAMPLE HAVE COLOR CASEHARDENED SIDELOCKS BUT NO ENGRAVED SCENES, THE R AND S SERIES ARE HIGH GRADE BAKERS WITH MODESTLY ENGRAVED SIDELOCKS. THE PARAGON, EXPERT AND DELUXE GRADES ARE ALL MADE TO ORDER OR "BESPOKE" GUNS. PARAGON GRADES HAVE SCENES OF POINTERS (DOGS) ON THE SIDELOCKS AND USUALLY HAVE THE BUYERS INITIALS ENGRAVED ON THE TRIGGER GUARD, DELUXE AND EXPERT GRADES WERE INTRODUCED IN 1919 AND ALL HAD A NEW CROSSBOLT LOCKUP AS WELL AS ENGRAVED RECEIVERS AND SIDELOCKS. BAKERS ARE NOT AS WELL KNOWN AS PARKERS/AH FOX BUT ARE EVERY BIT AS WELL MADE AND COLLECTABLE. WM BAKER WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN FOUNDING LC SMITH AND ITHACA GUN COMPANY. AnswerAccording to Baker all of their shotguns are safe with smokeless powders however they advise use of "moderate loads". Laminated, twist steel and damascus barrels are as strong as fluid steel but they can deteriorate over time. Remember that damascus/twist barrels are composed of thousands of small welds and that these welds can separate especially where the barrels are joined at the rib. These cracks are not visible and can cause the barrel to burst when fired. Have a competant gunsmith check it out before you use it better yet have it magnafluxed this procedure can detect cracks in metal up to 1/4 inch deep. Be safe wear shooting glasses and use low power loads (aguila minishells). Answer"According to Baker"??? Have you had recent contact with the company? They may have advertised that all their guns were safe with nitro or smokeless powder in 1933, but there have been changes since the company went out of business. AnswerWHAT IS MEANT BY ACCORDING TO BAKER IS THAT THE COMPANY WAS FAMILIAR WITH SMOKELESS POWDER IN THA LATTER 1800`S AND CLAIM TO HAVE BUILT THEIR FIREARMS TO ACCEPT BOTH SMOKELESS AND BLACK POWDER SHELLS. THIS INFORMATION WAS LISTED IN THE BAKER GUNNER CIRCA 1919, I OWN A BAKER PARAGON GRADE WITH DAMASCUS BARRELS AND HAVE HAD IT TESTED FOR CRACKS ETC. AND HAVE SUCCESSFULLY FIRED SMOKELESS ROUNDS THRU THE FIREARM. I DO NOT PROFESS THAT ANYONE SHOULD FIRE SMOKELESS THRU ANY OLD GUN AND IT IS UNDERTAKEN WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RISK, HOWEVER, IF IT PASSES INSPECTION BY A COMPETENT GUNSMITH AND MAGNAFLUX IT MAY BE SAFE. THEN AGAIN IT MAY NOT BE BUT YOU CAN PUT THE ODDS IN YOUR FAVOR BY USING LIGHT LOADS OR TO BE EVEN SAFER DON`T FIRE IT AT ALL. AnswerMy point exactly. Do not trust what you read in an 85 year old catalog. It was correct then, but modern smokeless powder and loads are NOT the same as the "white nitro" powder used in the early 20th century. I would suspect that this gun is chambered for 2 9/16 inch shells, which you will not find on the shelf at Walmart, or even most sporting goods stores. AnswerYou have raised a very good point and one that I had not considered, the advances in smokeless powder. The Paragon shotgun I refer to has 2.75 inch chambers and the use of aguila minishells (1.75 inch) keeps chamber pressures low. Even with the use of low power loads I wear a steel mesh butchers glove when firing the Baker. It is still risky at best and I don`t recommend this to anyone. This shotgun is in mint condition with bright bores used only for trap back in the day.
The Springfield name was used starting about 1915 until the late 1940's. From 1916 to 1920, the plant was used to manufacture Mosin-Nagant rifles for the Russian military and no Stevens firearms were produced. In 1920 the company was purchased by Savage Arms and production of the Stevens trade names, including Riverside and Springfield, was resumed.
Bridge Gun Co was a trade name used on guns made for Shapeigh Hardware Co., St. Louis, Missouri, c. 1920-1940. They were made by various manufacturers, but a .410 single shot is likely to be an Iver Johnson Champion.
The approximate dates are abt 1886-1916.
In 1920 Stevens started using the "J. Stevens Arms Co." instead of the Stevens Tools and Arms of earlier versions - I think Crackshots were made thru 36 (?) - so I'm assuming yours is a later version - 1920-36.
Hope that helps
THe No 26 was manufactured from 1912 - 1939.
you will need a serial number. try www.oldguns.net/ then click onto antique and collectable firearms and militaria headquarters. then scroll down (on left) to manufacture date GOOD LUCK !AnswerBill's link won't help you. The 67/67A was not serialized. 383,000 were manufactured between 1934 and 1963. AnswerI was looking for the same information on my 67 when I found this. Now I am confused because my 67 fits both categories of #1 and #2 rifle. Mine has the correct stamping, the 2 bolt and breech proof marks. the bolt and safety are the only things chrome,and it's got a smooth faced trigger instead of a grooved one. It has no #7 stamp on it.And the safety is not marked. No serial #, no sling swivels and the round,no finger groove stock. The takedown bolt is recessed. Now figure that one out? Maybe mine was a "transition" between mod.1 and mod.2?
The model 235 was manufactured from 1912 to 1932 (no Stevens guns were made from 1916 to 1920). Value will range from $50 if beat-up and rusted to $300 if like-new and never fired. Most will trade for around $200.
http://www.e-gunparts.com/dept.asp for parts I have one, manufactured in the '70s by Savage Arms. Approximate value is 140.00 - 180.00 USD.
Trapdoor Collectors has a bulletin board where there are people who know all about these rifles.
Go to www.armscollectors.com there is a Springfield link there, when you select the weapon type and enter the serial number it will tell you what unit your weapon was issued to
: Try http://www.trapdoorcollector.com/
The age of this gun, if it has no suffix on the model#,was probably made between 1942 and 1950.The value on this gun, in very good condition, is around $80.00 to $100.00. I do buy them for parts and to restore if your thinking of selling your old single. Let me know. Thanks and God Bless, Ken
Jim balls- I think Ken is right about dates but I was thinking earlier start. Like 1940.
Tom the Bomb- Savage made the 220 in 12-16-20-410.(not sure about 28). Barrel length varied from 26 to 32 inch. I have a 20ga /30"F and a 12ga /32"F. My 12 has a Monte Carlo stock and easily reaches the trap birds just before they hit dirt.Savage also used this action for model 219, their single shot rifle.Chambered for 22 Hornet,25-20,30-30,32-20,& 9mm rimfire.
Sometime between 1920 and 1948 by J. Stevens. A .410 in like-new condition could be worth up to $450-$500. If well used but still serviceable, $200-$300 would probably be about right.
Just purchased a Model 83 from a gentleman who states that he bought it new originally in 1940, when he was about 9 or 10 at the time.
Introduced in 1935 and dropped from production in 1939.
The Stevens Springfield rifle was also made for Sears's and was called the Ranger model 103 and there was also a model made for J.C. Higgins They sold for about $25.00
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It is probably a Swiss Verterli c. 1870-80 ~41 cal. I'm told about $250. Google will bring up additional info.
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