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Take over Ireland is an interesting way to put it.

more so is why are they not leaving.

heres a link that may help YOU determine the whys and why not... most people feel its a matter of opinion, so ill let you decide on your own.

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AnswerAn extremly complex question.

First of all, British means those people living on the island of Britain, i.e, the Welsh, Scots and English. Yet we never hear of the Scots and Welsh invading and suppressing Ireland, which they did!

For example, the Norman 'invasion' of Ireland in 1169 was carried out by Welsh-Norman barons from Wales.

Edward and Robert Bruce invaded Ireland twice during the early 14th century, devastating the people and country.

In the main, the question, though badly posed, refers to the domination of the Irish nation by the English. Look at it this way:

1 - The Norman invasion of Ireland, which was'NT an invasion in the true sence of the world, ultimatly failed. The Normans were either repelled or integrated - like the Danes and Norwegians - into Irish society.

2 - English dominion began with Henry VIII in 1541. The policys of his successors (Edward, Mary, Elizabeth) slowly encrouched on Irish people and culture, but did not destroy it.

3 - The Nine Year's War (1594-1603) is usually described as an Irish defeat, which is strange as Kinsale (1601) was almost the only Irish defeat of the war, which in any case did not end for another eighteen months. It may be better to describe it as a draw with the Irish winning on points because they still preserved their culture and language, were pardoned by the 1608 Act of Oblivian, while the English Exchequer was bankrupted.

4 - The Irish Confederate Wars (1642-1653) did indeed end in defeat, but this was not looked upon as final. Certainly the restoration of the Stuarts in 1660 were great causes for celebration. Even more so was the fact that James II, a Catholic, became King of Ireland, Scotland and England in 1685.

5 - Only in July 1691, at Aughrim, were the Irish Jacobite forces signally defeated. However, the Treaty of Limerick safeguarded many of the interests of the Irish; sadly, it was betrayed by the English. If anyone is looking for the true start of English dominon of Ireland, 1691 is as good a year as any.

And yet this still was not the end. The Jacobites remained a force to be reckoned with for the next sixty years. The Rebellions of the 1790's demonstrated that the patriotic impulse was not lost.

Why did Britain take over Ireland? Simply because that was what dominant powers did in that day. In the 16th century it was because she wised to conquor Ireland and use her resources for her own benifit. Also, then and later, because it might be a back-door used by the likes of France and Spain for an invasion of England.

I'm sure there are people better able to answer this question than myself, so keep on looking!

AnswerIt is funny how influenced peoples views of past realities are influenced by those of today. These days the population of Ireland relative to Britain shows that Ireland is a tiny country, where Britain, and England in particular is quite big.

This was NOT the case up until the early 1800s. Back then the populations were comparable.

AnswerTake over Ireland is a stange way to label it. Here in America if someone( and it's happened) goes into a McDonalds, starts shooting people, and some of them live. It's not reported as "a gentleman took over McDonalds today". No, we would say some pchycotic nut murdered innocent men, women, and children today in a cowardly act. Or something. Well, why? Appently that's what british people do (from a historical point of view, not the average british civilan either). They murder, torture and enslave people in order to steal. And for some, to satisfy their sadistic urges to torture and rape. Just look a their old social cast too. They treated their own people like trash to be thrown out. ANSWERIt is important to remember that Neither the Normans nor the Welsh nor the Scots were exactly univited.

It is true that Henry II was issued a papal bull Laudibiliter authorizing him to invade Ireland in order to bring about social and religious reform, however this bull was not acted upon (partly due to distractions with France at the time) until the ousted king of Leinster, Dermott MacMurrough, sought the king's help in regaining his lands. In exchange for help Dermmott MacMurrough had to swear allegiance to the king. At this point Dermott was given permission to recruit aide among the Welsh. He cut a deal with Strongbow stating that if Strongbow assisted he would get Dermott MacMurrough's daughter, Aoife, to wed. As pointed out, due to assimilation of cultures the invasion was not complete.

Also Edward the Bruce was also invited. After the success of Robert the Bruce in Scotland the Irish cheiftans conferred the title King of Ireland on Edward the Bruce and invited him to Ireland. They believed that with Edward as king and with the support of Robert they would be able to expel the English government. Edward the Bruce actually died while leading an army in battle against the English.

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How can the Williamite war in Ireland not be considered an English victory the main goal was to repress the Catholic rebellions and kick out the French, and such was done, there is no point beating round the bush saying i can't be counted as an English victory because the Irish culture and language still survived as the goal had no relevance to destroying Irish culture anyhow, and the reason England was virtually bankrupt was not due to the Williamite war alone as that was only a theater scene of the nine years war that fighting the French and Spanish on the European mainland was the main reason for bankruptcy otherwise the war in Ireland would have a been a breeze

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This dance started when in 1801 Under the act of Union Ireland became part of the United Kingdom together with England, Scottland and Wales. But it was in 1937 when Ireland became a Sovereing State within British Commomwealth.

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According to primary school history...

There was a powerstruggle/rivalry between one king and one/all of the others, so he enlisted the help of the normans (English) to resolve the issue. I think the terms of the agreement was any land they conquered was theirs.

The phrase usually used is "they were invited in".

Those Normans then settled and things were uneventful for a few hundred years.

Then, around the time America was being discovered and European countries began building massive empires, England began to apply pressure to the Irish normans to come under English rule in an attempt to start their empire off.

There was also the reformation/king Henry and all that, and England converted to anglicanism, Ireland remained catholic, and a catholic English king came to Ireland and tried to raise an army, and was defeated, and things turned sinister. This was the penal laws/oppression that is generally thought of as English occupation, though it began long before.

forgive the vaugeness, primary school was a LONG time ago.

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The British wanted to prove themselves as a powerful empire after losing the American War of Independence, as they appeared in a weakened position and seemed to be no longer invincible - thus to maintain a strong position they seeked colonial power in Ireland.

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The history behind the relationship between England and Ireland is a rocky one to say the least. England did not try to colonize its neighbor, rather they tried to invade the country.

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To become wealthy.

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They took control in 1801

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