Pool Heating

It would be stronger but possibly harder to handle depending upon size.

K

Make sure the gas valve that is part of the supply line is on.

There is another gas valve inside the heater, which has three positions: OFF, ON, and PILOT. Turn the valve to PILOT, then press it down. This will allow gas to flow to the pilot light, so that at this point it should be able to be lit with a match or better yet, one of those butane fire starters.

Continue to hold the valve down, for about 30 seconds.

When you release it, the valve should come up, so that you will be able to turn it to the ON position.

If the pilot is still burning, you should be good to go.

If the pilot goes out, however, there is a chance that the pilot generator, a $50 or so brass cylinder that is positioned near the pilot light and which produces about 500 mv, is bad.

The pilot generator puts out enough power, using the heat of the pilot light, to energize a coil inside the gas valve to keep the gas flowing to the pilot. If there is no power generated by the pilot light, the gas valve will shut down (it's a safety feature so that the gas to the non-burning pilot does not continue to flow and create an explosion hazard).

You will need a digital voltmeter to check the pilot generator, and some other wrenches to replace it if it proves to be not producing at least 400 mv when hot.

Assuming the pilot stays lit, your next job will be to ensure the other limit switches in the circuit are OK, and that the thermostat is working OK to actuate the second coil inside the valve the turns on the gas to the burners. Your question, however, was only about the pilot light, so I will leave it at that.

I also have a Teledyne Laars natural gas pool heater and I found this answer when trying to figure out how to light mine. The previous answer was correct although it didn't tell you where the pilot light was (where you put the flame in order to light it).

On mine, you should follow a thin pipe from where the blue circular pilot/on/off switch is. It goes from left to right and then goes back.

On the right hand side, there should be a sign that says "pilot light here" with an arrow pointing back. The actual tube it points to is the pilot light.

You should use a long match or a butane fire starter to place a flame along the top of this tube.

Turn the blue switch until it can be pressed down. When you press it down you should hear gas flowing (a light hissing). If you don't, there is no gas getting to the appliance. Follow the pipe from the meter to the appliance and check for the gas turned off along the way (I have two shut-offs - one at the meter and one at the heater).

While pressing the blue switch down, hold a flame to the tube on the right. It should light the gas. Continue to hold the blue switch down for 30 seconds or so. I think it is heating something at the back. If you release the blue switch and the flame goes out, repeat the process.

Eventually, you'll see an orange flame at the back as things start to heat up. When you release the switch, it should stay lit.

Please note these instructions are from my perspective - your situation may differ. Use these instructions at your own risk. If in doubt, have your pool heater serviced by a furnace cleaner.

Jim

So long as the blanket doesn't interfere with the flow of water it doesn't mater when you run it.

No it doesn't, Night time heatloss is a big problem for pool heaters, as your pool pump runs it moves heat away from your pool, so you actually increase the night time heat loss by running your pool pump/heater at night. The most economical solution is using a Solar cover and leaving your pump off at night to prevent night time heatloss and then just fire up your heater when the temperatures begin to come back up to daytime levels.

It will heat faster with the pump running... sort of. The issue is thermoclines. Water of a particualr temperature has a specific density. Cooler water is more dense than hot water, so hot water tends to rise and cold water tends to sink. This process creates what is called stratification. With the hot water on top, it creates the opportunity for much of that heat to radiate back into the air before it has the chance to transfer some of that heat into the colder temperature water below. If you want to heat the entire pool to a uniform temperature, turn the pump on. If you want the deep end to be colder than the shallow end, leave it off.

The answer will depend on where in the world the pool is.

3kw heater heating a 10 foot pool may take 4 to 8 hours for heating it up to 20 to 25 Degrees Celsius. This also depends on the outside temperature.

Personally, I disagree with the logic used by those above. If the bubbles are up, there will be larger surface area to absorb the sun's heat. Increased levels of heat absorption seems more important than the rate of heat transfer, especially when considering the fact that heat transfer takes place almost instantaniously.****i have tried it both ways, bubbles up or down. makes little or no difference heating. with bubbles down, though, it is easier to clean debrie off the cover and keep it clean.

There are really no common temperatures for swimming pools, because it really depends on where you live. If you have a swimming pool in Florida and then one in Montana, each of their temperatures is going to be different. It depends on where you live and how hot or cold it is outside.

Although it is advisable to check your manufacturer specifications, there are heat pumps available for above ground pools. You should expect to pay about $2,000.00 (+/-) for the unit itself plus any installations costs.

well you can probley call your friends finish home work snuggle up with a pet or if yourscared you can call your mom and dad or whoever is your gurdian but remember do not go outside if its lat at night just watch tv comptuer od cell phone thats my opoinoin

This is a very oversimplified answer, which can probably be better answered by an air conditioning professional. But for a simple example / understanding, imagine using an ORDINARY window air conditioner for BOTH summer cooling and winter heating. Basically a window air conditioner takes heat out of the air on one side, and blows HOT air out the other side. That is what it does in hot weather, takes heat out of the indoor air, and moves it outside. IF you were to REVERSE / ROTATE the air conditioner the OPPOSITE direction, it would take heat out of the OUTSIDE AIR, and add it to the INSIDE air. Wait, I can hear what you're thinking, but YES, there is SOME heat even in cold outside air. A heat pump is not very efficient in VERY COLD climates, so the manufacturers usually add an electric heating element to "boost" heat output when there is not enough available in the outside air. Now the heat pump, whether it be a window unit, or a fixed central heat and air unit, is basically an air conditioner which you DO NOT HAVE TO TURN AROUND to change the output. That is accomplished with controls for VALVING which can REVERSE the flow of the referigerant, depending whether heating or cooling is required! Also, for very cold regions, instead of having an air "radiator" [coil and fins] to collect the very little heat from the very cold outside air, some heat pumps use a buried [underground in the yard] tubing system [circulating a liquid similar to water] to collect heat from the earth. The heat collecting grid is buried deep enough to be where the earth stays relatively warm [compared to the surface and air above]. Also, in very hot summer regions, this area stays relative cool compared to the air, and can be used to "dump" the heat from the air conditioning mode, increasing efficiency, and reducing operational costs! VERY simply, a heat pump is a REVERSABLE air conditioner. j3h.

Need to know the surface square footage. Length X width only. Then, need to know the size and length of gas line run from the meter to the equipment pad; then the size in sq ft of filter, pump horse power, size of plumbing. Is there a heater already in place?

Ken

The pool water draws its color from the liner. If you buy a white liner, then the pool water will not be blue. If you use a light blue liner, then the pool will be light blue. In my opinion, the best liner is a darker blue liner with ripples on it. Your pool will look gorgeous and inviting and the ripple effect makes it difficult to see any dirt in your pool. A solid color liner lets you see everything, which isn't always pretty.

replace it if you don't have the time to clean it.

Need more info. How long a run from the gas meter to where the heater will be? How many BTU heater? The longer the run and the larger the heater size then the larger the pipe size.

Ken

Also one should know the heating value of the fuel as natural "gas" can be as low as 900 BTU per cu ft to 1,200 BTU per CU ft You should also know the BTU OUT put of the heater.

One should take the normal ambient temperature the volume L x W x H of the water to be heated and have n idea what the desired temperature of the water they are seeking

06/15/2013

(a) One needs to know whether this is a Natural Gas Appliance, or a Propane Appliance. ( Natural Gas is Low Pressure so needs greater volume < larger pipe>)

(b) w' Propane heater, run galvanized nipple from gas valve direct out of casing to 2nd stage Regulator. Include a "Drip T" to retrieve moisture. ( pipe size dictated by the thread on the gas valve. No restictions beween Regulator except an inline shut off valve. Include a Union inside the cabinet so you can remove and service burner tray if needed.

(c) w' Natural Gas utilize the manufacturer's specs .

Also A Manometer is an essential tool to check the inlet (static) gas pressure, and the valve open pressure to ensure sufficient gas flow to avoid "Sooting Up" the heat exchanger with a "lazy" flame ( gas starved ).

All pool heater manufacturers will provide their install specs. Call them and ask.

Always SOAP TEST all connections. Immediately after install prior to igniting the device, and again after running appliance ( heat can cause joint expansion).

no u cant cause it might break the heater.

The side with the bubbles sticking out

The bubbles go face down on the solar cover because when the sun hits the smooth side if the cover it warms the bubbles up on the other side & the bubbles on the solar cover holds more heat than the smooth side

If the Pilot light is burning, you don't want to try to jump terminals to get the heater to start heating. Most heaters have some sort of water flow sensor so it only fires the heater if water is moving fast enough through it to transfer heat from metal parts to pool water. If you jump to bypass the flow sensor you are risking seriously damaging the heater if it's trying to heat and the filter pump shuts off while you aren't standing nearby to turn off the heater as soon as, if not before the filter pump stops running.

I got hired to remove two LP fired pool heaters because the owner thought he could jump or bypass the flow sensor, the filter pump stopped while he wasn't there to shut off the heater, and by the time he returned, the heater flame was still burning strong and there were holes melted into the heat exchanger so next time he tried using filter system, the spraying water kept putting out the flame and flooding the fire chamber of his pool heater.

On, it does not stop the sun from heating the water, it holds the heat in though.

( evaporation cools it quickly and the cover prevents this )

Purchase a cover and cut it to fit your shape. It will void the warranty, but honestly- it's really just a piece of plastic- and what would the warranty actually cover? Estimate your square footage of the pool. You're going to have to buy a solar cover that is larger than the pool. Lay it out over the pool and trim to fit. Several smaller, cheaper covers would be more economical than purchasing one large cover. You're going to cut it anyway. 8 mil should be thick enough- unless you live in a cooler climate, then purchase 12 mil thickness.

Generally yes, as long as the solar blanket does not interfere with the hose to the automatic cleaner. This will depend upon the exact type of cleaner you might have.

In most cases, the hose will simply move smoothly along the underside of the solar blanket. I would suggest that you try it but keep a close eye on things until you are sure the blanket is not obstructing the movement of the cleaner.

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I use my barracuda under the solar cover all the time. The steps in the pool usually cause more of a problem than the cover. However, once the pool is clean, the solar cover usually helps to keep it clean.