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Can you take Suboxone after 12 hours of taking a roxi and dont have withdrawls due to short term use of opiates and has not yet become physical?
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Yes- atleast I have done it. It was more like 12-18 hours in between. I took 2-3 roxys in about 1 and 1/2 days bc of a severe abscess tooth causing me unbearable pain. After my last roxys i sort of just took it easy.. Slept it off and then took my sub as usual. But im thinking it wasnt too bad based on the short term use of the opiate idk. I'm scared to advise anyone to do anything really bc I realize everybody is different and since I've rode that precipitated withdrawal train- I'm scared as hell to get anyone a ride on that track again man..
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Does suboxone help rid body of opiates?
Yes, it does not. Suboxone is a semisynthetic opioid analgesic and relieves the withdrawal symptoms of opiate addiction by binding to your opiate receptors and kicking the true opiotes off of these receptors. Due to the nature of the drug it does remove other opiates and puts them into your bloodstream to be detoxed by liver and kidneys. Suboxone is nothing like heroin or oxycontin-it does not get an addict high nor does it send you into withdrawal if you use an opiate while on it. you can only withdrawal if addicted. Suboxone has a stronger affinity for these receptors than does heroin/oxy and the drugs will give no europhic effect. "And if you try to take any other opiates while suboxone is still in your system not only will you not feel it at all you will be sent in to severe withdrawal symptoms immediately and will become VERY sick (not true. You should wait at least 24 hours after your last opiate to take suboxone to avoid becoming sick. Unless you are taking methadone, and that case you should wait at least 48 hours." This would only be true with methadone. Never take suboxone and methadone together. It is absolutely horrifying-yes worse than heroin withdrawal. I am no newbie to this type of lifestyle-it took me decades but with suboxone and help from non-using friends I am okay today. Also I personally know that you can take opiates when you still have suboxone in you. You actually get high because you're adding opiates to the opiods that are already there (just like if you drank a beer a little while after taking five shots you would get more drunk than if you had never taken the shots). Not true-Subs are antagonists-they block opiates-I learned early on about the deterrent affect of the drug. They add naltrexone to suboxone in the US-it completely blocks opiates from being effective. Another reason why you may have thought this is because there is an opiate agonist in Suboxone, but I have read (I don't know enough about pharmacy to understand why this works, just that it does) that there is one part agonist to every three parts of opines, and for some reason this ratio causes injecting Suboxone to be uncomfortable. (only mental cases do this-like fools who crush and snort lortabs-real dope fiends!) I have been prescribed suboxone for 3 years-i was addicted to heroin and methadone for 15 years. Subutex is a different horse and not easily obtained in the US. Life is much easier without the daily runs and waste of thousands of dollars. The first year i used intermittently by cutting down my dosage for a few days-good heroin always worked but at the same time destroyed so many things in my life - especially to those that loved me it wasn't worth it. I actually despise reading about teenagers doing heroin. I am 52 and my life would have been a lot different if drugs in general hadn't been a priority with me. In short-suboxone does knock true opiates out of your system-I never got a feeling of being high on it-never detox from a high dose of methadone (done to me in the hospital) with it unless you want to truly visit hell.
What pain meds can you take while on Suboxone?
basically none with the exception of Tramadol. Tramadol adds a interesting uplifting buzz, but no medication that makes you drowsy in any kind of way. If you're trying to get high, you can't unless you stop the suboxone and wait until the medication is out of your system (and by then you're sicker than hell) to be able to actually feel anything
Is Suboxone considered a popular recreational drug in Europe?
Suboxone is a combination of two medications. The first mediation is 'Naloxone' an antagonist or opiod blocker used to counter the effect of opiates including opioid overdose. The second medication is 'Buprenorphine' a semi synthetic opioid (synthetic narcotic analgesic) used for pain varying from acute to chronic. Considering how the two different drugs are absorbed into the body, the Naloxone is put in the mix to keep a user from being able to get high via injection or sniffing Suboxone. The highest concentration of narcotic can be absorbed by the body only via route of medically recommended administration which is sub-lingual (keeping the pill under the tongue till it completely dissolves.) Suboxone is no more popular of a recreational drug in Europe as it is in the United States. However, it's reported that the narcotic in suboxone (Buprenorphine) is highly abused in areas of Europe just as Heroin is abused in certain areas of the USA. EDIT- First,I will answer the OP's question. Yes it has become very popular over in that region/area[s] of teh world and even here in the US too. In some areas,it has replaced heroin as the number one most abused substance. Secondly,I am oing to correct soem mof the first answer to your question so that others may get the compeltely correct info. We are talking about a narcotic here.This is important. So much misinformation going around on Suboxone/Buprenorphine. For one,the naloxone does nothing even when snorted or injected. Buprenorphine has a higher affinity to the opiate receptors than naloxone does. Secondly,Buprenorphine is actually a very powerful substance. Despite it being a partial agonist[and partial antagonist] it is a very effective and can produce very strong efffects just like other opiods/opiates. If your tolerance is TOO HIGH than you cant really get high on Buprenorphine[or buprenrphine containing formulations] but if your tolerance to opiates is mild to small and under than you can indeed get high on it. I take it everyday via snorting and sometimes IV when im low. Snorting gets me the highest.I only ijject it whn I need to conserve my small amount thats left. Also,Buprenorphine is most effective at lower dosages. I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH! DOCTORS OVERPRESCRIBE SUBOXONE JUST LIKE THEY DO METHADONE! WHEN I HAD A 300MLG/daily ORAL MORPHINE HABIT OR 80mlg+/daily OXYCODONE[ANY FORM] HABIT SNORTING A 2MLG PIECE OF SUBOXONE OR SUBUTEX WOULD BE ENOUGH TO TAKE AWAY MY WITHDRAWLS COMPELTELY FOR A FULL 24 HOURS AND EVEN CAUSE ME TO SLIGHTLY FEEL GOOD TOO. That was 4 years ago or so. Now I take suboxone daily at the 0.5mlg-1.0mlg dosage nasally. I get high EVERYTIME.And when I dont have it,I do withdraw but its not nearly as bad as full opiate agonist withdrawls. Still sucks but it is much milder and longer lasting. When you get up to high dosages the withdrawls will become worse. That is why their is much bad rep going around sometimes about suboxone withdrawl. People are taking too much is one of the reasons,the other reason which is much less common i think,is some people are just being crybabies when they start feeling a mild withdrawl. Its not that bad at low dosages.Still sucks like I said but not nearly as bad. Also,if you are someone who takes Suboxone/Buprenorphine for recreation,potentiators such as diphenhydramine are VERY good for inducing a stronger effect. But becareful and be safe. And most of all..BE SMART IN WHAT YOU DO. God Bless.
How long does suboxone take to push methadone out of your system?
Methadone's active metabolites can remain in the system for up to three weeks, which is what makes cold-turkey methadone detox nearly impossible. Suboxone does not "push" anything out, it merely staves off most of the withdrawal by 1) neutralizing part of the effect, and 2) replacing the methadone metabolites with other opiates. The second reason is why one should not take Suboxone any longer than absolutely necessary: it is possible to become addicted to it as well.(I took methadone on Saturday and took suboxone on Sunday - Wednesday and I came up clean.I wasted $40.00 because of all these false answers .Im on Federal probation so I had to make sure after reading all this false info.So I know for sure 4 days of suboxone will get a small dose of methadone out.I took 10 millagrams.)
Is suboxone an amphetamine?
Suboxone is a combination of buprenorphine and Naltraxone. It does not shown as an opiate because it is not an opiate since its is not made from opium . It actually keeps you from getting high from opium. The suboxon fills your opiate receptors and the naltraxonw blocks real opiates from getting into your system. It tricks your brain into thinking it has opiates and blocks them if you do take them. It is a serious antagonist and if you do take an opiate based drug while using suboxone, you will become violently ill. It does have an half life meaning every day after you take it, there is half of what you took, 2 days, 1/4 and so on unitl it is completely disipated. you have to be tested for it to even have it come up positive.
If you've been taking Suboxone for about a month and then while skateboarding you broke your ankle is it safe to take Lortab which the doc at the hospital prescribed?
my mom is a nurse so in this case i know quite a bit about medicine, and as far as i know, loratabs are for depression. i would definitely not take those and try to skate or anything like thatMore by S-BThe Lortabs I've been taking have been 10mg Hydrocodone pills mixed with APAP. If you take them while on Suboxone, either the analgesic (pain relieving) effects will be lost, or you will become sick much like during withdrawal. If you are going to use opiates, stop taking your Suboxone for a day or two prior.WOW - Here is a correction.Lortabs are not for depression... They are for moderate to severe pain.Some opiate addicts might tell you that they are not depressed when taking them though but please realize that opiates are not used to treat depression.Try a tri-cyclic or SSRI (selective seratonin reuptake inhibitor) for depression such as prozac, zoloft or even cymbalta.
What will happen if you take Fentanyl while on suboxone?
a friend has told me that you get very sick and nauseous if you mix the 2 if you are addicted to heroin and you take suboxone, you will become violently ill. I was told by user friends to wait at least 24 hrs after taking last dose of heroin. I waited and still began vomitting for hours and crapping myself (no joke), went to hospital only to find they give you no sympathy and no help. Do not take suboxone unless it's been 48 hours or more since last hit of dope (heroin).
Does haroin show up as dilaudid on drug test?
Heroin shows up as opiates - all opiates become morphine when you take them. Dilaudid is an opioid - a synthetic opiate. ("Natural" opiates like morphine are made out of the sap of opium poppies.) It used to be that opiate tests didn't catch opioids...but now everyone uses an "expanded opiate" test that looks for both.
Can suboxone show up in a urine analysis as any other drug?
The answer below is fairly uninformed and sounds quite biased. Suboxone does not show up as any other drug, opiates for instance, on a drug test. It has been reported to occasionally cause false positives however. From what I hear possibly benzos, or if the drug test is testing specifically for oxycodone in addition to opiates in general, it may cause a false positive for oxycodone, but not for opiates. I don't know anyone personally that has had that happen, nor has it happened to me, but just be aware that the possibility is out there.Also, a clarifying point, suboxone does not stay in your system for 6 months (I don't believe any drug legal or illicit has a half life that long), most certainly not after one use. I've heard as long as 25 days or so, if you have been on the maintenance for months or years. The average seems to be 36-72 hours, depending on dosage. The other information about drugs in your system is way off as well, but that information is not pertinent to this question. I believe he may be thinking of a hair follicle test, which can detect left over traces of use for around six months. I don't think this information is at all accurate.I think it is important that there be good information for these questions. While it is not the most ideal option, it certainly works for treatment of opiate addiction and is miles better than methadone. I was addicted to opiate pain killers for a long time and did the suboxone maintenance program for a year and a half. You will not become "another statistic". I believe is is a terrible and misguided thing to try to deter anyone sincerely seeking help from properly using this drug, because 100% to the contrary, if you do, you will most certainly save yourself from becoming another statistic of opiate addiction. You probably have as much chance of getting hit by a falling airplane than dying from the proper medically supervised use of suboxone. The below post did however hit the nail on the head about mixing other drugs with suboxone. Mixing any two illicit drugs is very dangerous in general, but mixing suboxone (and all opiates) with benzo's is extremely dangerous and life threatening, often causing death. Be very aware of this risk, it is very real and I have personally lost several close friends to this deadly cocktail. Be weary of any prescriptions such as xanax or valium, you must avoid these completely. Once more, the combination of opiates and benzo's is extremely deadly.My Sources:Firsthand experience, medical advice.
Are there any side effects to suboxone?
Unfortunately yes. As with any medication they can be minor to life threatening, but usually pretty minor. I would say if you are on a maintenence program your number 1 side effect is going to be constipation!! You will most likely become constipated so you should adjust your diet accordingly to keep those bowels a movin! The other side effects are pretty much the same as with any other opiate but the dangers of respitory depression is less likely with suboxone, although I have noticed that it will make me a bit nauseous sometimes. Have a good day!!
Will you get sick taking suboxone and methadone?
Yes. Suboxone is a synthetic opiate, and you become addicted to it just like any other opiate drug. Going cold turkey from it is no fun at all. That's one of the reasons that suboxone replacement therapy is not a good idea. If a person runs out, they are likely to turn back to heroin or other opiates to avoid the withdrawal syndrome.
