Saltwater Swimming Pools

Saltwater pools are a cheaper alternative to the traditional chlorine home pool because they do not require as many pool treatment chemicals. These pools are not as salty as seawater and have the same salt content as the human body. Ask questions here about installation, costs and upkeep here.

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How much should a 25 x 45 inground pool poured concrete no decking two lights auto cover polaris cleaner and pool heater cost?

  • In spring 2010, we put in an 18x40 in Oklahoma. With all the bells & whistles, it came to about 30k. That included a diving board, $3,000 slide, 8' concrete in the back for the diving, 6' over where the slide is, 4' around the rest. A salt water system, vinyl 30mm liner, concrete coping around the edging, Roman style steps in the low end, the safety winter cover, 2HP pump (my pump is about 75' from pool), plus about 100sq ft more concrete back to our patio and I think that's about it.
  • We have 2 skimmers, 2 bottom intakes in the deep end, 1 wall intake for the vacuum. 4 returns back into the pool + the slide return which is also plumbed from the pool, so the pool water runs through the slide which is NICE! So no cold hose water.
  • My suggestion is to Internet research styles. I kinda knew what I was looking for when I walked in, then they suggested some of the extras like the coping around the pool edging where it meets the concrete. Normally there's a metal part that the concrete meets to, the cantilever coping added a nice finish too it.
  • And from my past building experiences, I searched for a company that had an office. Most of these builders around here just have a cell number. I wanted an office that I can go to if things went out of whack. I was turned off by a few fiberglass pool installers because one number went to a guys house, and the 2nd contractor went to his cell phone.
  • Be prepared, the installation destroys the yard.
  • It depends where one lives. In Northern California, your configuration would cost between $25K to $35K, depending on the contractor.
  • We live in Southern California. We are currently in the last and most trying stages of our development. Our contract price was a bit over $40,000 and I've battled to keep it that amount. Each time they have deemed it necessary to increase the cost with some unforeseen feature, I take away something which I can complete myself. Our features include: 14x28' pool. 7' diameter spa. Pebblecoat. No decking provided by builder. salt water system. Faux boulders and edging. Redwood bridge with shear decent water falls off both sides. Heater. Cleaner. No landscaping by builder. Baja reef with sitting boulder. 30' contiguous underwater bench. 3 pool lights and 1 spa light(Sounds excessive, but with the Black Pearl pebblecoat, it's a safety issue for me). When the builder is done, I anticipate a great pool, only to be surround by a dirt wasteland until I build the necessary arbors, patios, decking and landscaping. If I could have dug the hole myself, I would have. The rest will be completed with the 2 hands which are currently typing this response.
  • It depends on where you live, if your backyard is dirt or dirt with big rocks, size, if a truck can get through to the backyard or if a bobcat has to be used, and what all you want in a pool.
  • If you are getting bids from different companies, you need to look at how long they have been in business. You can go with a company that has been in business for 5 years and the next year they go out of business and you can not do a thing about any problems that you have with your pool.
  • Go with a company that has been in business for at least 25 years and does more than just build pools. Look for a company that builds, remodels, and services pools. Also look for a company that has a retail store and has a monthly service department.
  • You really want to stay with a company that can accommodate all your needs when it comes to your pool!
  • I live in the Ohio Valley and we're getting estimates on an 18X36 pool in the neighborhood of $20-25,000, depending on materials. Concrete vs. vermiculite seems to make a difference. I can tell you, though, since you asked about an auto pool cover: friends of ours have one on their 18X36 pool; it cost $8,500! Unless you have serious safety concerns, you may want to stick with a simple solar cover (usually included in most pool package prices), with an deck anchored winter cover (about $1,500). It all depend... Do you want something in the class of a Yugo or VW or the class of a Aston-Martin or Maybach?
  • Pool prices vary as widely as automobiles... a pool is not a pool! What are the soil conditions on your site? Do you have asoils report? What is access like? Do they have to take down a fence between the homes? How far is the closest dirt dump site? Do they get to pile the dirt in your back 40 acres? You get the picture... It depends...
  • Volume pool builders do not supervise production, limit your material selections, build minimal strength pool shells that often times are not sufficient for the site's soil conditions, guesstimate the fluid dynamics (hydraulics & pump sizing), use rebound gunite in their shells, use minimal steel, use single pumps for multiple purposes (results in excess power consumption - as accessories are not used much, and the excess reserve power is spent daily for filtration!), don't use waterproofing compounds in their cements, build flimsy formwork, blah, blah, blah... You get the idea.
  • If you can settle for a few headaches, poor follow through, little back end support. limited selections, then by all means use a volume builder. But quality takes time.... The rule of thumb is don't spend more than 7-10% of the value of your house, on a pool. And remember - cement, steel, lumber, and labor costs are rising exponentially, cement and steel shortages are being experienced in portions of the country! The pools we build average $250,000! (& that's the pool only! No decking, outdoor kitchens, fireplaces, buildings, retaining walls, etc...).
  • A licensed swimming pool professional, will be able to come to your home and prepare you a quote and you will then be able to make an informed decision with that information. Go ahead and make that appointment and your on your way.
  • In the meantime ask yourself how you will use your pool, do you entertain alot, do you like water features? What did you like about the pool on your last vacation? How much time are you willing to spend on maintenance, or will you need full service? Is safety a concern, and what temp. do you like your pool water? Do you think you will want to exercise in the pool much? How many 6' loungers do you think youll need and do you plan on a patio set also? Do your kids plan on having many friends enjoy the pool at their house? Do you want the longest possible pool season. Are you willing to make monthly payments or are you planning on paying out of pocket. I noticed a TV ad for Disney $1,500.00 family of four for a week at the park, FREE-POOL included but you gotta go home after a WEEK, no Exceptions. A pool can be one of the most enjoyable affordable investments for the home. getapool.com good swimming take care.
  • Northern, CA. bay area.......pool only ...38,000 and up.....pool/spa.....50,000 and up........100,000 for pool/spa here is very normal.
  • The relative cost of your swimming pool will be dependent on where you are located and the current state of the local economy. Swimming pools are a luxury industry and also seasonal in many areas creating a niche that is harshly impacted by economic downturn. Slow periods will drive down prices quickly.
  • Steel costs have increased for gunite swimming pools by over 250% in the last five years as an example of why current pool prices seem inflated. Material costs increased with cost of fuel increases, but have yet to drop since fuel prices have lowered.
  • To understand what a pool should cost you should consider what the cost is to build the pool. The pool comes down to engineering, permits, material ordering, framing, steel, plumbing, pressure test, electrical requirements, inspection, concrete application, mud base and perimeter tile, mechanical room plumbing, coping forms, coping pour, interior surface prep, interior finish (marble, stone or crystal based mortar) and the finish and filling of the pool.
  • The raw material and labor costs in Canada to build a gunite pool is around $25-$35,000 depending on where you are located. Typical retain pricing in Canada would be $35,000 on the low end and $65,000 on the high end.
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What are the advantages and disadvantages of a saltwater swimming pool?

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How do you convert your in-ground pool from chlorinated to saltwater?

Make sure your water is balanced and add salt (sodium chloride). You need to purchase a saltwater chlorine generator and you'll need to calculate the amount of salt you need. You would need to bring your pool salt content up to 3,000 ppm.

Concentration is the amount (by weight) of salt in water and can be expressed in parts per million (ppm). Here are the classes of water:

* Fresh water - less than 1,000 ppm

* Slightly saline water - From 1,000 ppm to 3,000 ppm

* Moderately saline water - From 3,000 ppm to 10,000 ppm

* Highly saline water - From 10,000 ppm to 35,000 ppm

Ocean water has a salinity that is approximately 35,000 ppm.

http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/earth/Water/dissolved_salts.html&edu=high

There is now a system with a healthier salt available Magnesium and Potassium Chloride. it is more expensive but in my opinion it is also much better and halthier than Sodium chloride. The aticle I am using is from poolrite

http://www.magnapool.com/about_magnapool.php

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How many gallons of water are in a 24 foot round pool that is 4 feet deep?

For a round above ground pool, the calculation is:

Diameter x Diameter x Depth X 5.9 = Number of Gallons

Please note that the depth is the ACTUAL water depth NOT the height of the pool wall (the water is usually around 6 inchs lower than the wall height).

For your example:

For a 24-foot round pool with a actual water depth of 3.5 ft: 24x24x3.5x5.9 = 11,894 or around 12,000 gallons.

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Are saltwater pools cheaper or better?

Salt water pools produce "chlorine," so it is cheaper. It is also more troublesome. Yugos were also cheaper ... you get what you pay for.

If your chlorine generator is working properly and your salt levels are correct it will work just fine.

Though I have never been in a saltwater pool, my children have swam in several. They swear by it and insisted that ours be saltwater. I trusted their there request and went ahead to pay the extra money for something I know nothing about.

"Are saltwater pools cheaper or Better"? Really its not a Salt water Pool, bottom line is your gonna have saltwater in your pool with any type of sanitizer.Boxed chlorines are produced with sodium.

I like the easy part of the salt generator, less work and worry. Nothing beats a clean clear pool, I have been using generators for over 20 years, today's versions are light years ahead of my first unit in terms of cost and performance, you really get alot with today's modern generators at one huge value.

A chlorine generator is easy, efficient and cost effective. Of course there are cheaper ways to sanitize your pool. Most owners find they like the increased softness from a little salt in the water and it's easier to maintain a clean pool. When your not home it's especially easy and if you happen to go on vacation for a week or two.Your pool professional can recommend and professionally install the right unit for your pool.That also reminds me I know someone who doesn't have a heater for their in-ground pool no doubt they still swim.

Initially the salt system will be considerably more expensive. You have the cost of the salt cell,control panel and the salt for the pool. Over the long run though, the system will pay for itself. Salt is not used up so the only adding needed is what is lost during backwashing the filter, splashing and what people remove with them when getting out of the pool. IMO the salt system is a lot easier to maintain. once you have everything set properly, it will run and produce chlorine on its own. No more storing or handling harsh chemicals. Best part, you can leave for a month and come home to a clean pool instead of a slime pit. For more information visit howtobuildaningroundpool.com

We put in a saltwater pool and the only problem we had was we chose a limestone rock coping. The salt ate away alot of the rock and we've only had the pool four years. So last summer, I switched to chlorine and am letting the salt level gradually lower with backwashing, swimming, etc. Just be sure you use an appropriate coping material with the saltwater pool.

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What is the best coating for an inground pool?

Good research at www.poolrestoration.com. I researched all the options they offer and read all the research. I like them because their site focuses on helping solve your pool problem, NOT just trying to sell you some product. In the end I emailed them about my problem. I got a phone call from the owner. We talked for about 5-10 minutes, and he said that I did not need to buy anything from him, and he gave me simple step-by-step instructions to fix my pool wall problem. I took his advise, and the pool is fine (cost me $200 in materials instead for $2000 in pool coatings). I am new to this also. I have to select a coating for an existing pool.

Suggesting coating (I don't know about Pebbletech, which is a surfacing more than a coating or paint), I would recommend to look to Ramuc, National paints manufacturers. Then the discussion will go on choosing between Epoxy, Rubber or Acrylic coating.

Not all these coating can co-exist or be used over old coating. Acrylic seems the easiest to apply but with a shorter useful life. AnswerMy gunite pool was resurfaced with fiberglass. It is smoothe to the touch and I use significantly less chemicals because fiberglass isn't pourous like gunite. AnswerNew surface for a Gunite Pool shell.

You can choose the more common marcite surface, this is a marble + white portland cement + additives mix for a surface which has lasted over 30 years when properly taken care of.

Secondly you could go with a finish of quartz + additives which is more durable and forgives more abuse, these finishes last and last most even have 10 -15 year warranties

Fiberglass coatings are also available for gunite pool shells and have options also.

Not to mention auto covers for all pools, chlorine generators, wireless controls, and lights of all colors, water features have never been more high tech. Your licensed pool pro is available to help you.

Many people ask me how can people justify owning a gunite pool with a very expensive quartz or diamondbrite finish? To help answer that question, I ask them, What's important to you?

Inevitably the answer is, "Everything is important" And those sucessfull owners are demanding pools that are gorgeous , have features that make every moment enjoyable, always want reliable and safe products, that also keep their value.

getapool.com good swimming.

Whatever finish you choose, avoid DiamonBrite. It stains very easily, is highly sensitive to chemical balance and a real nuisance. Our 2 year old pool needs to be fully resurfaced because the DiamonBrite blue finish is now streaked with grey. In our new FL development, Rottlund Homes selected Oasis Pools who recommended DiamonBrite over Marcite and PebbleTech. All of us regret following their advise. All of us, over 60 homes, are looking at replastering. Acid wash only temporarily fixes the problem.

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How do you get rid of salty taste in pool?

TDS (Total Disolved Solids) in general make the water taste salty. Specifically sodium from the chlorine you add. Draining is the only way to get rid of the salty taste.

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How do you convert from baquacil to chlorine if algae is present in the pool?

To get rid of algae in a Baquacil pool, the best thing to use is the Performance Algaecide. The algae will actually get worse if converting because you have to wait until the Baqua reading is at zero before converting which could take at least several days because the Oxidizer is designed to last for an entire month.

I can send you instructions by e-mail re converting from baquacil to chlorine and/or the saline system. E-mail me.

What is your email address?

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Can you use salt water in a hot tub and if so how do you do so while keeping costs down?

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How do you convert a pool to real saltwater?

How to convert a pool to real saltwater.

Add only sea water, just like a cruise ship pool operator would, dump it everytime your done for the day, and try like heck to get a health dept. permit.

You will find pumps and filters to handle salt water and heat exchangers to handle your heating needs on a commercial basis, Astral is one mfgr. you can try.

But again your first stop is going to be your local and state health dept for a permit to operate a commercial pool with sea water.

good swimming getapool.com

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What does buffer and added hardness do for a saltwater pool?

Buffer and added hardness do the same thing in a salt water pool as in a fresh water pool. The buffer (sodium bicarbonate aka bicarbonate of soda) stabilizes the pH of your pool so that addition of acid or base doesn't change the pH very much. The hardness, mostly Calcium, helps achieve water balance to make the pool neither deposit (precipitate) excess Calcium Carbonate to your pool surfaces nor corrode (remove) Calcium from your plaster pool surface. The combination of pH, Total Alkalinity (adjusted for Cyanuric Acid), Calcium Hardness, temperature and Total Dissolved Solids determines whether your water is balanced. Just keep these values near their recommended amounts for your pool and you should be fine. If you're a techie and want the full formulas, do a Google search for "Langelier Saturation Index".

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Can dogs swim in a saltwater swimming pool?

Yes.

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What is the cost and efficiency of converting a public 'chlorine based' swimming pool into a saltwater pool?

You will need 1 chlorine generator for every 25000 gallons of water in your pool, They run 1500-1700.00 each. It takes about 2.5 years to break even, If nothing breaks.The water is tons better feeling on your skin and you still need to keep PH in check add Pool conditioner and keep track of your phosphates.More info Kenny 801-232-5893

You also don't have to mess with chlorine tablets, granules, etc. Many of the newer chlorine generators are self-cleaning and easy to use. A good example is the Aqua Rite from Goldline / Hayward. You can see one here:

http://shop.bluehaven.com/product/aqua-rite/in-ground-pool-alternative-sanitizers

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Does swimming in a saltwater pool damage your hair?

yes, salt is very drying! but during the hot summers, not swimming doesnt seem to be much of an option so before you go into the pool put conditioner in your hair... just enough to evenly distribute

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How do you know if your pool is a saltwater pool?

Saltwater pools generally will have a salt cell installed within the plumbing usually after the heater. It is the cell where the chlorine is produced. It should have a cord on it that leads to a power center. Having your water simply tested for salt will not determine whether or not it is saltwater. Even pools using liquid chlorine(Sodium Hypochlorite) can have high amounts of salt if they haven't been drained in a while.

www.cwipools.com

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What size pump for a 5000 gal pool?

i also use a 5000 gallon pool above ground and i use a 1 1/2hp pump. with a sand filter.

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Are Olympic pools saltwater?

Pools used in Olympic competitions are filled with chlorinated fresh water.

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Can you turn a chlorinated aboveground pool into a saltwater pool?

Yes,but only if your pool is resin[that is constructed from 100% polymer or plastic]. It is not advisable to use salt in a "steel pool".

Salt in a steel pool is a lousy salesman answer. All Chlorine is made from Salt and the amount needed in your pool is insignificant to what kind of pool you have. Any pool can be salt

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Will installing a saltwater system on a new pool immediately after filling with water but before the interior has cured stain the pool?

I have a salt water system and recently had my pool resurfaced. There was no staining. If you put your salt in the skimmer like you we're supposed to there should be no staining, If you put your salt directly into your pool it could stain from the minerals in the salt. If you used table salt there will be much less staining than if you used road salt.

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You should NEVER use road salt or table salt. Wrong chemical make up! Follow directions on the "pool salt" bag. The salt goes into the pool and not the skimmer!! You must brush any salt that lingers on the floor until it is mostly dissolved. DO NOT add salt until the water has filtered for at least 24 to 36 hrs. or that recommended by the manufacturer or pool builder. Do not rely on other people to tell you what needs to be done. GO to the source -- builder - manufacturer. You should not have staining if the above basics are followed. Additionally, you must run the standard pool equipment for about 2 weeks or more. This gives the plaster time to cure properly. The salt system can and most likely be installed by the builder as he installs the pump and filter. The salt system unit will not be turned on until the plaster has cured. After the cure you must follow procedures on the proper start-up of the salt system.

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Can i use copper algaecide in salt water system pool?

Answer : in short yes copper is fine, but...

I have copper-zinc mesh screens in all my collection baskets, i go to rummage sales to find 64' & before silver coins and single pieces of sterling silverware in bad shape; i put that in the baskets too. You can get broken sterling silver jewelry for pennies on the dollar, the cheaper the better. The cheapest sterling silver has the most copper, and turns black quickly. This means it's pretty reactive. Silver and copper in this form with sodium & chlorine ions in a salt water pool, along with the zinc kill off EVERYTHING. The reactivity of electrolyzed water on microorganisms is amazing.

I have a masters in biology from Indiana University and I'm a microbiologist that works for a large Indiana city muni-water dept. I work in a lab setting, i test for all contaminates in the cities public pools, including those found in the public schools.

There is a fellow from my university who uses Cavitation to kill ALL microorganisms in his pool without the use of ANY chemicals, his pool is pure water from the tap without ANY additives!!!

This is not impossible, but it is expensive!! And in a public pool system according to laws in our state it would have to have some amount of chemical that killed bacteria on contact, such as bleach/chlorine.

He is a private individual, If you would like further information just Google, Jet Cavitation, or impeller cavitation, in relation to microorganisms. Also Dynajet, and Hydrodynamic cavitation. This technology has been used for decades in the food processing industry, but if you have thousands to blow, why not.

I have cultured samples from my pool on a regular basis, my levels are cleaner than any public pool I've ever tested. The combination of silver,zinc,copper and the salt water even kills Cryptosporidium.

I have future plans of testing neem and tea tree oil in a pool.

P.S. Copper will stain your pool if you have light colored floor/walls and your hair if your grey or blond, I don't recommend it for newly dyed hair either. If your pool is a dark color you have no worries. Blue dye might help but that has consequences too, things like bluing agents, best of luck.

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How do you get rid of rust in a vinyl pool?

I have the same question. A screwdriver was laying at the bottom of my pool throughout the whole winter, now there is a rust mark about 2in by 2in in the bottom of my pool. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to remove it without clouding my water or damaging the vinyl liner?

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What causes pool grout to turn blue?

Copper, check your tablets or algaecides or maybe you have a heater.

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How to lower the salt level in a salt water pool?

Is adding water a possibility?

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When backwashing a salt water pool will the water kill plants and flowers?

== Ok, the answer is yes, depending on what plants you are talking about, if you are talking about epsom salts that is a good thing for some plants. Also magnesium, and try to direct your pool discharge away from your landscape. The art of pool water discharge is easy. PVC pipe is very helpful, or try a flat rubber hose as an alternate. == == No, salt is actually good for plants believe it or not. I know for my tomato plants, I put a little bit of epson salt in the hole where I plant my tomatoes, unless of course you were to flood your plants completely. I agree some salts are necessary for plants however the type of salt used in most swimming pools is Sodium Chloride or Common salt, while a bit of this stuff is not necessarily going to do too much harm you could end up with a build up of salt that will harm the soil and some of the plants. Salt contamination of the soil is a big problem throughout Australia. However a new salt water system system using Magnesium and potassiums chloride is actually good for the plants, but this stuff is only just coming onto the pool market.

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Does the salt in a saltwater swimming pools harm the equipment?

Salt Harming EquipmentA salt system can harm the equipment in a "runaway chlorine" environment which can be common if the unit isn't operated properly or if water isn't tested and balanced regularly. In a runaway chlorine environment, the chlorine created by the salt system could potential dissolve the heat exchanger in a heater in a couple of days.

The salt can also be harder on the pump seals and the salt corrodes motors and equipment in the case of leaks.

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