Make sure your water is balanced and add salt (sodium chloride). You need to purchase a saltwater chlorine generator and you'll need to calculate the amount of salt you need. You would need to bring your pool salt content up to 3,000 ppm.
Concentration is the amount (by weight) of salt in water and can be expressed in parts per million (ppm). Here are the classes of water:
* Fresh water - less than 1,000 ppm
* Slightly saline water - From 1,000 ppm to 3,000 ppm
* Moderately saline water - From 3,000 ppm to 10,000 ppm
* Highly saline water - From 10,000 ppm to 35,000 ppm
Ocean water has a salinity that is approximately 35,000 ppm.
There is now a system with a healthier salt available Magnesium and Potassium Chloride. it is more expensive but in my opinion it is also much better and halthier than Sodium chloride. The aticle I am using is from poolrite
For a round above ground pool, the calculation is:
Diameter x Diameter x Depth X 5.9 = Number of Gallons
Please note that the depth is the ACTUAL water depth NOT the height of the pool wall (the water is usually around 6 inchs lower than the wall height).
For your example:
For a 24-foot round pool with a actual water depth of 3.5 ft: 24x24x3.5x5.9 = 11,894 or around 12,000 gallons.
Salt water pools produce "chlorine," so it is cheaper. It is also more troublesome. Yugos were also cheaper ... you get what you pay for.
If your chlorine generator is working properly and your salt levels are correct it will work just fine.
Though I have never been in a saltwater pool, my children have swam in several. They swear by it and insisted that ours be saltwater. I trusted their there request and went ahead to pay the extra money for something I know nothing about.
"Are saltwater pools cheaper or Better"? Really its not a Salt water Pool, bottom line is your gonna have saltwater in your pool with any type of sanitizer.Boxed chlorines are produced with sodium.
I like the easy part of the salt generator, less work and worry. Nothing beats a clean clear pool, I have been using generators for over 20 years, today's versions are light years ahead of my first unit in terms of cost and performance, you really get alot with today's modern generators at one huge value.
A chlorine generator is easy, efficient and cost effective. Of course there are cheaper ways to sanitize your pool. Most owners find they like the increased softness from a little salt in the water and it's easier to maintain a clean pool. When your not home it's especially easy and if you happen to go on vacation for a week or two.Your pool professional can recommend and professionally install the right unit for your pool.That also reminds me I know someone who doesn't have a heater for their in-ground pool no doubt they still swim.
Initially the salt system will be considerably more expensive. You have the cost of the salt cell,control panel and the salt for the pool. Over the long run though, the system will pay for itself. Salt is not used up so the only adding needed is what is lost during backwashing the filter, splashing and what people remove with them when getting out of the pool. IMO the salt system is a lot easier to maintain. once you have everything set properly, it will run and produce chlorine on its own. No more storing or handling harsh chemicals. Best part, you can leave for a month and come home to a clean pool instead of a slime pit. For more information visit howtobuildaningroundpool.com
We put in a saltwater pool and the only problem we had was we chose a limestone rock coping. The salt ate away alot of the rock and we've only had the pool four years. So last summer, I switched to chlorine and am letting the salt level gradually lower with backwashing, swimming, etc. Just be sure you use an appropriate coping material with the saltwater pool.
Good research at www.poolrestoration.com. I researched all the options they offer and read all the research. I like them because their site focuses on helping solve your pool problem, NOT just trying to sell you some product. In the end I emailed them about my problem. I got a phone call from the owner. We talked for about 5-10 minutes, and he said that I did not need to buy anything from him, and he gave me simple step-by-step instructions to fix my pool wall problem. I took his advise, and the pool is fine (cost me $200 in materials instead for $2000 in pool coatings). I am new to this also. I have to select a coating for an existing pool.
Suggesting coating (I don't know about Pebbletech, which is a surfacing more than a coating or paint), I would recommend to look to Ramuc, National paints manufacturers. Then the discussion will go on choosing between Epoxy, Rubber or Acrylic coating.
Not all these coating can co-exist or be used over old coating. Acrylic seems the easiest to apply but with a shorter useful life. AnswerMy gunite pool was resurfaced with fiberglass. It is smoothe to the touch and I use significantly less chemicals because fiberglass isn't pourous like gunite. AnswerNew surface for a Gunite Pool shell.
You can choose the more common marcite surface, this is a marble + white portland cement + additives mix for a surface which has lasted over 30 years when properly taken care of.
Secondly you could go with a finish of quartz + additives which is more durable and forgives more abuse, these finishes last and last most even have 10 -15 year warranties
Fiberglass coatings are also available for gunite pool shells and have options also.
Not to mention auto covers for all pools, chlorine generators, wireless controls, and lights of all colors, water features have never been more high tech. Your licensed pool pro is available to help you.
Many people ask me how can people justify owning a gunite pool with a very expensive quartz or diamondbrite finish? To help answer that question, I ask them, What's important to you?
Inevitably the answer is, "Everything is important" And those sucessfull owners are demanding pools that are gorgeous , have features that make every moment enjoyable, always want reliable and safe products, that also keep their value.
getapool.com good swimming.
Whatever finish you choose, avoid DiamonBrite. It stains very easily, is highly sensitive to chemical balance and a real nuisance. Our 2 year old pool needs to be fully resurfaced because the DiamonBrite blue finish is now streaked with grey. In our new FL development, Rottlund Homes selected Oasis Pools who recommended DiamonBrite over Marcite and PebbleTech. All of us regret following their advise. All of us, over 60 homes, are looking at replastering. Acid wash only temporarily fixes the problem.
TDS (Total Disolved Solids) in general make the water taste salty. Specifically sodium from the chlorine you add. Draining is the only way to get rid of the salty taste.
To get rid of algae in a Baquacil pool, the best thing to use is the Performance Algaecide. The algae will actually get worse if converting because you have to wait until the Baqua reading is at zero before converting which could take at least several days because the Oxidizer is designed to last for an entire month.
I can send you instructions by e-mail re converting from baquacil to chlorine and/or the saline system. E-mail me.
What is your email address?
How to convert a pool to real saltwater.
Add only sea water, just like a cruise ship pool operator would, dump it everytime your done for the day, and try like heck to get a health dept. permit.
You will find pumps and filters to handle salt water and heat exchangers to handle your heating needs on a commercial basis, Astral is one mfgr. you can try.
But again your first stop is going to be your local and state health dept for a permit to operate a commercial pool with sea water.
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Buffer and added hardness do the same thing in a salt water pool as in a fresh water pool. The buffer (sodium bicarbonate aka bicarbonate of soda) stabilizes the pH of your pool so that addition of acid or base doesn't change the pH very much. The hardness, mostly Calcium, helps achieve water balance to make the pool neither deposit (precipitate) excess Calcium Carbonate to your pool surfaces nor corrode (remove) Calcium from your plaster pool surface. The combination of pH, Total Alkalinity (adjusted for Cyanuric Acid), Calcium Hardness, temperature and Total Dissolved Solids determines whether your water is balanced. Just keep these values near their recommended amounts for your pool and you should be fine. If you're a techie and want the full formulas, do a Google search for "Langelier Saturation Index".
You will need 1 chlorine generator for every 25000 gallons of water in your pool, They run 1500-1700.00 each. It takes about 2.5 years to break even, If nothing breaks.The water is tons better feeling on your skin and you still need to keep PH in check add Pool conditioner and keep track of your phosphates.More info Kenny 801-232-5893
You also don't have to mess with chlorine tablets, granules, etc. Many of the newer chlorine generators are self-cleaning and easy to use. A good example is the Aqua Rite from Goldline / Hayward. You can see one here:
yes, salt is very drying! but during the hot summers, not swimming doesnt seem to be much of an option so before you go into the pool put conditioner in your hair... just enough to evenly distribute
Saltwater pools generally will have a salt cell installed within the plumbing usually after the heater. It is the cell where the chlorine is produced. It should have a cord on it that leads to a power center. Having your water simply tested for salt will not determine whether or not it is saltwater. Even pools using liquid chlorine(Sodium Hypochlorite) can have high amounts of salt if they haven't been drained in a while.
i also use a 5000 gallon pool above ground and i use a 1 1/2hp pump. with a sand filter.
Pools used in Olympic competitions are filled with chlorinated fresh water.
Yes,but only if your pool is resin[that is constructed from 100% polymer or plastic]. It is not advisable to use salt in a "steel pool".
Salt in a steel pool is a lousy salesman answer. All Chlorine is made from Salt and the amount needed in your pool is insignificant to what kind of pool you have. Any pool can be salt
I have a salt water system and recently had my pool resurfaced. There was no staining. If you put your salt in the skimmer like you we're supposed to there should be no staining, If you put your salt directly into your pool it could stain from the minerals in the salt. If you used table salt there will be much less staining than if you used road salt.
You should NEVER use road salt or table salt. Wrong chemical make up! Follow directions on the "pool salt" bag. The salt goes into the pool and not the skimmer!! You must brush any salt that lingers on the floor until it is mostly dissolved. DO NOT add salt until the water has filtered for at least 24 to 36 hrs. or that recommended by the manufacturer or pool builder. Do not rely on other people to tell you what needs to be done. GO to the source -- builder - manufacturer. You should not have staining if the above basics are followed. Additionally, you must run the standard pool equipment for about 2 weeks or more. This gives the plaster time to cure properly. The salt system can and most likely be installed by the builder as he installs the pump and filter. The salt system unit will not be turned on until the plaster has cured. After the cure you must follow procedures on the proper start-up of the salt system.
I have copper-zinc mesh screens in all my collection baskets, i go to rummage sales to find 64' & before silver coins and single pieces of sterling silverware in bad shape; i put that in the baskets too. You can get broken sterling silver jewelry for pennies on the dollar, the cheaper the better. The cheapest sterling silver has the most copper, and turns black quickly. This means it's pretty reactive. Silver and copper in this form with sodium & chlorine ions in a salt water pool, along with the zinc kill off EVERYTHING. The reactivity of electrolyzed water on microorganisms is amazing.
I have a masters in biology from Indiana University and I'm a microbiologist that works for a large Indiana city muni-water dept. I work in a lab setting, i test for all contaminates in the cities public pools, including those found in the public schools.
There is a fellow from my university who uses Cavitation to kill ALL microorganisms in his pool without the use of ANY chemicals, his pool is pure water from the tap without ANY additives!!!
This is not impossible, but it is expensive!! And in a public pool system according to laws in our state it would have to have some amount of chemical that killed bacteria on contact, such as bleach/chlorine.
He is a private individual, If you would like further information just Google, Jet Cavitation, or impeller cavitation, in relation to microorganisms. Also Dynajet, and Hydrodynamic cavitation. This technology has been used for decades in the food processing industry, but if you have thousands to blow, why not.
I have cultured samples from my pool on a regular basis, my levels are cleaner than any public pool I've ever tested. The combination of silver,zinc,copper and the salt water even kills Cryptosporidium.
I have future plans of testing neem and tea tree oil in a pool.
P.S. Copper will stain your pool if you have light colored floor/walls and your hair if your grey or blond, I don't recommend it for newly dyed hair either. If your pool is a dark color you have no worries. Blue dye might help but that has consequences too, things like bluing agents, best of luck.
I have the same question. A screwdriver was laying at the bottom of my pool throughout the whole winter, now there is a rust mark about 2in by 2in in the bottom of my pool. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to remove it without clouding my water or damaging the vinyl liner?
Copper, check your tablets or algaecides or maybe you have a heater.
Is adding water a possibility?
== Ok, the answer is yes, depending on what plants you are talking about, if you are talking about epsom salts that is a good thing for some plants. Also magnesium, and try to direct your pool discharge away from your landscape. The art of pool water discharge is easy. PVC pipe is very helpful, or try a flat rubber hose as an alternate. == == No, salt is actually good for plants believe it or not. I know for my tomato plants, I put a little bit of epson salt in the hole where I plant my tomatoes, unless of course you were to flood your plants completely. I agree some salts are necessary for plants however the type of salt used in most swimming pools is Sodium Chloride or Common salt, while a bit of this stuff is not necessarily going to do too much harm you could end up with a build up of salt that will harm the soil and some of the plants. Salt contamination of the soil is a big problem throughout Australia. However a new salt water system system using Magnesium and potassiums chloride is actually good for the plants, but this stuff is only just coming onto the pool market.
The salt can also be harder on the pump seals and the salt corrodes motors and equipment in the case of leaks.
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