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US Military Special Operations

Special operations in the US Military are usually low profile or covert operations carried out by highly-trained military personnel, who can easily adapt to difficult situations, operate in different environments, and use unconventional combat skills in achieving a mission.

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Why aren't the marines force recon in special operations command like SEALs and Special Forces?

Recon Marines are JTF (Joint Task Force) with SOCOM though they report directly to MARSOC (Marine Special Operations Command). Because of all of the Intel flowing in to these organizations, they must be separate. These organizations make COMS (communications) with each other at all times in order to inform ground operators of the current situation.

Almost all of the time in ground combat operations, MARSOC, SOCOM, and NATO (National Atlantic Treaty Organization) will be working together in actions labeled as either JTF or CAX (Combined Arms Exercises).

The MOS name being Reconnaissance Marine MOS#0321. This elite group of marines are trained to do missions by land, air, and sea infil and exfil (infiltration, exfiltration) similar to the Navy SEAL. Their primary mission is to secure and monitor their AO (area of operation) along with sending Intel to command regarding enemy POS (position) and build up. A recon marine is responsible for giving his commander instructions as to what he should do regarding the placement and advancement of other friendly/Coalition units in the AO.

Where SEALS and Recon Marines are very similar is that both units execute missions by Land, Air, and Sea infil, and they carry out missions pertaining to rescue/elimination/Identification and verification/retrieval of HVT's (high value target), HVI's (high value individuals), as well as exfil by similar methods including the use of SDV's (seal delivery vehicles - small submersible vehicles used to transport soldiers in amphibious combat operations.

Both SEALS and Recon Marines main goal other than their objectives is to remain undetected. They are not so hardcore that their 4-man team can take on 500 men in their AO. Both special operations teams do everything possible to remain undetected. The reason why they have such a devastating effect in combat is largely due to their stealthy tactics, They will surround you without your knowledge, and suddenly C4 goes off, M249's and M4A1's start blasting off. But only for a few minutes, as no 4-man team can suppress a whole platoon on their own land for long, that's why they do their job effectively, in and out.

Hence the Marine Force Recon motto, "Swift, Silent, Deadly".

For example, an ORP (objective rally point) is set so that when an HVT is eliminated or Intel is retrieved (whatever the case), the operatives can get in and out as fast as possible remaining undetected without carrying all of their non-combat gear. By hitting the enemy so fast and hard, their reaction forces cannot reach the area of conflict in time, that's if the target can even make COMS before dying. Once the objective is executed, the small group will make its way back to the ORP to gather their excess gear and as well to rest (because sometimes, you have to run 6 miles through the forest to get a safe distance from where their previous engagement). After all of this, they make their exfil and come back home.

What do you call the air force special operations people?

It depends on their job. If you are talking about the guys on the ground, they are called Special Tactics Airmen. The specific jobs for them are Combat Controllers, TACPs, and Pararescuemen. All Combat Control Teams are AFSOC units. Only one TACP unit is with SOCOM - 17th Air Support. The rest belong to Air Combat Command, or ACC. Pararescuemen, or PJs, deal with personnel recovery and MEDEVACs. They are placed in either the Rescue Squadrons under ACC or the Special Tactics Squadrons under AFSOC. Some PJs and CCTs are also with JSOC as part of 24th Special Tactics.

Are spys real?

Absolutely, and spies are a huge problem which is why, in time of war, you're allowed to shoot them. There are three kinds of people doing intelligence work: officers, agents and spies. An intelligence officer is someone on our side performing intelligence work against the enemy. The people in our intelligence community are intelligence officers.

An intelligence agent is someone on the other side performing intelligence work against us. KGB employees were intelligence agents to us, and intelligence officers to the Soviets. (OTOH, to the Soviets a CIA officer was an intelligence agent.)

A spy is someone on our side performing intelligence work against us. Spies break down into two classes: spies and double agents. A double agent--which most "spies" are--is an intelligence officer who's collecting against...oh, say the North Koreans...while at the same time spying on us and reporting to the North Koreans. James Hall is a prime example of a doubled agent; while assigned to Field Station Berlin, he worked against the Soviets, but at the same time he was selling information on how we operated against the Soviets to them. He'll be in jail for the rest of his life. A pure spy is someone who's providing information to the enemy, but not collecting against them. The Rosenbergs were pure spies--they provided a lot of information to the Soviets on nuclear weapons development, but since they weren't intelligence officers they weren't collecting against the Soviets.

A fun story about an attempt to recruit a spy gone very, very wrong: in the 1960s the Soviets were building the Tupolev 144 supersonic transport, which was to be their answer to the Concorde. They weren't doing well on some things so tried espionage. One of the things they were having trouble with was tires, and they attempted to hire a maintenance worker at Paris Orly Airport to get them rubber debris from Concorde tires. The maintenance worker contacted French intelligence, who contacted scientists at the Michelin company, who made a batch of the worst rubber ever invented for the Soviets.

Which us military force has the longest and hardest training Marines Rangers Green Berets Deltaforce or Navy SEALs?

DEVGRU(Naval Special Warfare Development Group) formerly known as SEAL Team 6 has a 9 month Special Operations Assaulter course. Im positive that Delta Force's selection time would be very similar to this,it used to be 6 months. But since the 2000's Special Operations units have been upping the anty on there selection courses. DEVGRU and Delta Force are very comparable so im sure Delta's selection is probably about the same.

How much money do snipers get paid?

Military snipers are paid by their rank and pay grade in the military service. Enlisted ranks make less money than officer ranks, but snipers are usually enlisted members. To best answer your question, anywhere from $16,800 to $50,000 a year depending on several things. No they don't get paid by kills, and they don't do contract work.

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What is the Army's version of a Badge Bunny or Lot Lizard?

Well, the two are somewhat different. A 'badge bunny' is a woman attracted to police officers, firefighters, paramedics, etc., whereas 'lot lizard' is a term used by truck drivers for the prostitutes which loiter around truck stop parking lots (they're referred to as 'lizards' for the way they scurry from truck to truck. The 'lot lizards' prefer to refer to themselves as 'commercial company', but back to the point.

For the former, I knew of quite a few girls who made their way through the ranks (although not in that way), but I don't recall any special terminology being applied to them.

For the latter (referring to prostitutes), there were the 'drinky girls' in Korea, although it's not an all-inclusive terms. The 'drinky girls' were girls who worked at bars in Korea aimed at US service members as their clientele.. the 'drinky girls' served drinks, and, for the price of a $10 - $20 glass of what was usually orange juice (for them), they'd sit with you and keep you company for as long as their drink lasted... in some bars (but not all), this might come with "services" (I can't be more specific on WikiAnswers), and, in some bars (but again, not all), you would have the option to buy additional "services" (again, can't be more specific, but I shouldn't have to in this instance). If there were equivalents in other overseas US duty stations (Japan, Germany, Italy, etc.), any terminology applied to them remains unknown to me, although none were more notorious than the 'drinky girls' of Korea (who were always either Russian or Fillippina - never Korean.

What are the parts of unified command?

Establishes the unified commands

Assigns them geographic responsibility

Assigns primary tasks to be carried out by the command

Defines the command relationships within the theater and between the theater and other US commands

Provides guidance on the exercise of combatant command authority

Was delta force in Grenada?

Yes. Delta was involved in the initial invasion of Grenada. They initially planned to recon and secure the Port Salines airport for the Rangers but were discovered before hand and got into a firefight with Grenadian forces as the Rangers began dropping in. Delta also planned and executed a raid again Richmond Hill Prison where American college students were being held as political prisoners.

How is it like in special forces training?

Depending on what special force you want to join, the training will always be very different because they all specialize in different ways of fighting.

Keep in mind that any special force will all push you to and beyond your physical limits, as well as your mental limits.

I'll add info about Marine force recon because I have prior experience with them. (I'm a SEAL now, but it's basically the same as far a physically)

Marine Force Recon

When you get out of boot camp all recruits have a chance at attending

the Basic Reconnaissance Course (BRC).

To pass this course, you must first pass physical screening so that you won't

have any medical problems throughout the course.

You must pass Combat Water Survival courses 3-1, this is what most people have a problem with due to highly stressful situations while being in open water usually in full combat gear (fight or flight test being the hardest of all).

I've always been a great swimmer because I grew up on the river and close to the ocean, I have to tell you though, it was really hard. They nearly drown you many times in order to see how you will react (many do drown and have to be revived immediately).

Running, that's our religion. You have to be able to atleast run 6 miles before you go (we ran 10mi once), as well as ruck (aka hump, march) 80lbs 20 miles up a mountain. The 'funnest' (if you describe pain as fun as most special operatives) part of training was "engine appreciation day" in which you have to run your Coxswain rubber raiding craft 2 miles, paddle pass the surf and paddle another mile and a half, flip you boat, paddle back. 5 laps of this.

The funnest part is the HAHO/HALO (High altitude High open/High altitude low open) parachute qualifications where you get to jump at 30k with full combat gear (it takes long practice hours in the wind tunnel before attempting this).

There's plenty of SpecOp forces out there tho, feel free to add whatever experiences you've had in any of these to give people a better feel:

Para rescuer, Green Beret, Ranger, SEAL, Navy EOD, etc

How to get on to seal team six?

You can either apply to join Navy or Seals directly and will be assessed physically, mentally and psychologically. You must be 28 years of age or younger.

What is better a navy SEAL sniper or navy SEAL infantry man?

Deciding which is "better," a Navy SEAL sniper or a Navy SEAL infantryman, depends on the skills of the person who is deciding which to aim for jobwise. If you are a marksman, sniper might be a better position. In either case, Navy SEALS are trained to perform as a cohesive unit, with each part being important to the whole.

What is the name of the special force in the marines?

The primary special operations force of the USMC is simply known as MARSOC, the Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command.Also known as Force Recon from their historic origins as an elite Marine unit that wasn't attached to the Special Forces, it is not as well known as the Army Rangers and Navy SEALs becuase it is a relatively new outfit, established in 2006. Unlike Force Recon, MARSOC was established as a full member of the United States Special Operations Command (SOCOM) so as to coordinate an increased need for joint special operations and counter-terrorism.

Is the airforce special forces hard to get into?

"Hard" is a relative term. It is a special forces organization and as such certain health and physical requirements must be met, along with performance requirements.

That said, how difficult it is for someone is probably dependent upon their desire, focus, dedication and willingness to continue to work towards that goal than any other factor, provided the person is physically capable of performing the task in the first place (for example, no medical issues).

What is better to join the military for US Army Airborne or Marine Corps Scout Sniper?

It all depends on what you want to get out of it.
It depends on what you're more interested in. Marine scout sniper would definitely be harder, because it's more centralized in one job. With airborne you'd only have basics and then a 3-week airborne course. That's about it. You could also get into an air assault course, but it's not really difficult or necessary even to get the patch. It's all on your personal preference. Either way, good luck. Hope i helped a little bit. If you're looking into scout sniper look up the show "surviving the cut." it has full episodes on youtube and shows the training you'll go through. Marine sniper is one specific episode.

Is there a spec ops group that does not engage in airboure combat or parachuting?

Law enforcement SWAT. You're not likely to find much of anything in the military in the realm of Special Operations which doesn't have to at least be parachute qualified.

Navy SEAL sniper vs Marine Recon sniper vs Army Ranger sniper who's better?

Between a SEAL, Marine, and an Army Ranger, it can vary. One of the best snipers was Carlos Norman Hathcock II. This Marine had 93 confirmed kills. Another was a SEAL by the name of Chris Kyle who had 160 confirmed kills.

Who sees more actions seal team 6 or delta force?

Neither sees more "action" than the other. The unit that is assigned to a specific mission depends on a variety of things. For example, if the mission takes place on water, then DevGru is most likely to be sent. If it takes place on land, Delta or DevGru could be sent. The availability of a unit will also play a factor. When the bin Laden raid occured, DevGru's Red Squadron had just finished a rotation in Afghanistan and could be rerouted for a final operation without creating a lot of unwanted attention. The capture of Saddam Hussein involved a Delta team, a platoon from the 75th Ranger Regiment, and soldiers from the 4th Infantry Division.

When were the Army Rangers formed?

The modern Ranger Regiment was created in 1986, but can trace its roots all the way back to the colonial times. They were created to provide advanced warning of raids by hostile Native American tribes and to strike back at these tribes. The spiritual birth of the Army Rangers is considered to be Roger's Rangers, formed in 1751 by Major Robert Rogers.

The Rangers have fought in every American conflict, except World War 1, in some form or another. Eventually, the 75th Infantry Regiment (Ranger) was formed during the Vietnam War. After the war, the Regiment was changed into the 1st and 2nd Ranger Battalions, followed by the 3rd Ranger Battaltion and the Regimental Headquarters in 1984. In 1986, all of the Ranger Battlations were placed under the 75th Ranger Regiment. The 4th, 5th, and 6th Ranger Battalions were reactivated as the Ranger Training Brigade, the precursor to the modern-day Ranger School.

What is a better career choice cct or tacp People say you should pick whats better for you but i really dont know because ive never been in either so how can i tell for sure?

It depends on what you want to do. CCTs act as pathfinders, in the sense that they create forward airfields and coordinate aircraft within a combat zone. In a bind, CCTs can call in close air support, but that's not their primary job. TACPs/JTACs call airstrikes for ground combat units. All CCTs are AF Special Operations personnel. Only one TACP unit, the 17th Air Support Operations Squadron, is an AFSOC asset. The rest belong to Air Combat Command.

Is airborne considered special forces?

depends the 101st and 82nd are not spec ops but almost aqll us spec ops are airborne quaLIFIED

Is an army ka-bar okay for throwing?

The Ka-Bar was never adopted by the Army... there is no actual "issue combat knife", although soldiers will purchase them on their own.. some purchase the Ka-Bar.. I preferred the SOG SEAL 2000, personally.

The Ka-Bar can be thrown.. however, it's not ideally balanced as a throwing knife (as most combat knives aren't), and would take a good of practice specifically with that knife to get it down.

What do you call the flares military forces shoot into the sky to illuminate an area and where can i buy one?

There are a few different types of flares.. "star clusters" are used for signaling, whereas what you're thinking of are parachute illumination flares.

The 40mm flares which are used in the M79, M203, and M320 grenade launchers will be particularly difficult to obtain. 40mm grenade launchers are classed by the BATFE as a destructive device, and require paperwork similar to the paperwork to legally obtain a transferrable machine gun. On top of this, many states which allow NFA Category II firearms (machine guns, short barreled rifles, suppressors, AOWs) will not permit the transfer of destructive devices to civilians.

Same story which parachute flares intended to be fired from mortars, field artillery pieces, etc.

However, 37mm dedicated flare launchers - intended to be replicas of the M79 and M203 grenade launchers - are available to the general public.

As for the older "Flare, Hand Held Illumination" (given a nickname inappropriate to be posted on this website), it may be possible to find them at military surplus stores and the like, although not particularly likely.