Marcus du sautoy on the consciousness and the sense of self?
An Essay On The Consciousness And Self-Awareness by ELIZABETH BARNOR
Does anyone out there agree with prof Marcus Du Sautoy that consciousness and self-awareness can be proved only by scientific experiments? I don't. I believe that what atheist scientists are searching for is the concept of God. And so long as they deny His existence, their searches for the meaning of life - which consciousness is, will always elude them.
Consciousness, I believe, lies in the metaphysical state. And Metaphysics is ideation - an abstract awareness that is felt or sensed, but is outside of the human physical experience. The metaphysical world, as philosophers assert, can be reached only through the subconscious state. The old philosophers - like Descartes, Nietzsche and yes, William Blake, who I think of as a philosopher rather than a poet, (or maybe both), attained the subconscious state, or the metaphysical world, largely by smoking opium; which transported them to an awareness outside of their physical state, enabling them to come out with concepts and imageries that made us think of them as philosophers. They were philosophers to us because attaining the metaphysical world is not something the layman, or ordinary man, ever thinks of exploring. It is not something he even aspires to. It does not occur to him he might want to attempt going there.
And if by some fluke he chances to be there, he is not adequately equipped to recognise it. It would make him senseless. He would start behaving oddly, misinterpreting and misrepresenting what is revealed to him. It would strongly disturb him into displaying societally-unstructured behaviour. He would veer so far off-course from the codes and conventions put in place to guard and control us by Society. Society will condemn and treat him as insane.
The ordinary man, whether out of laziness, or lack of self-belief, prefers to label another as a philosopher, a scientist, a seer or somehow blessed with the sort of brain that is not meted out to all humankind. It is beyond the reaches of his mental capacity to wonder about anything other than is in front of him. What he cannot see and touch, to him does not exist and does not warrant worrying about.
Gautama Buddha sat under a tree for years to attain the same state - which he called Nirvana. Only to have his fellow man put him on a pedestal and deify and worship him. All he was doing was searching for answers to his own life problems. But I hereby claim, unscientific and non-mathematical as I am, that we all have the nature-given ability to seek answers to problems pertaining to our own lives, and life in general. That a high imagination, if summoned (and it can be done at will), can achieve the same state so that a thought can be plucked from the unseen to explain our world. We do not need, and indeed must not, make others liable to, and responsible for, finding answers to our mistakes. They can find their own answers - we must strive to do the same.
When Einstein came up with the equation E=MC(2), he was doing the same thing. Alright, he did use algebraic (mathematical) codes, signs and formulae, but he was still working with non-palpable ideas. Dreams, like imagination, can do the same thing.
During the good professor's experimentation and moments of near-clarity on BBC2 on the 20th of October 2009, he did touch on the idea of the Consciousness existing outside of the physical body. Yet that impalpable something still eluded him. He travelled the globe, visited other science professors and doctors in order to grasp different aspects of the search for his answer, but it still did not occur to him to attribute this elusiveness to a Supreme Being, a higher intelligence - simply to God, our Creator. Scientists would be more intellectual and helpful to the world and to their 'craft', if only they admit that there truly is something 'out there' that has the answer to everything that they cannot get at. And that that something is Divinity God, the Creator, and that it is at this juncture of their search that Faith comes in. And that the very fact that whatever they do, they cannot get a conclusion in certainty, means there is a God that can only be reached by faith. He has given us so much, yet we always deny Him the credit for all we have and own, which is what He alone bequeathed to us at our birth. What does He have to do for us to see him in the glory of the beauty we see around us in nature?
Prof Du Sautoy did mention Descartes and his idea of his consciousness or existence being determined by his self-awareness: 'I think, therefore I am.' It is only through his thinking (the mind, the (sub)consciousness) that Descartes could actualise his existence. He (Descartes) also asserts that God exists because we are moved to wonder about Him. The very fact that we can conceptualise Him and debate whether or not He exists, is proof that He does. The human mind cannot accept what it does not see and touch except through Thought/Ideation/Metaphysics. Creators of film special effects go into their minds (the metaphysical world), to evoke the pyrotechnics and monstrosities that fill us with awe at the cinema. We are awed by special effects because not till somebody thinks or imagines up and builds, we cannot even begin to perceive them. They do this and we think of them as geniuses we admire. God does more than that. We see the proof of his creativity in the natural world we inhabit, in our own selves. In the fact that we cannot will ourselves to live and die - that is all to His will, yet we deny Him His rightly-deserved admiration and praise. That is all He asks of us, not much from One who has given us so much. And yet we cannot show our awe in his creativity that surpasses all mankind is capable of.
The mind is a great thing. If properly utilised for its rightful purpose, it can achieve so much for us. And that was one of God's stipulations with man when after creating Adam and then Eve, He entrusted the world and all in it into their care. He wanted us to use the mind to look after ourselves and the World he created for us. The mind is encapsulated in the brain while we have Consciousness and does its miraculous work: In scientific terms the connective activities of thousands, if not millions, of neurons that allow us to live and perform. I will endeavour to call these connective activities the Consciousness which gives us self-awareness. Again, Du Sautoy conceded that the Mind/Consciousness is separate from the physical body.
Yes, they are separate. But the end (death) of one - the physical body, should not mean the cessation of the other - the Consciousness or Soul. The Soul does leave the physical body at death but it passes into a bigger, collective Consciousness - A spirit world. Or a world full of departed or separated souls, or consciousness that is another dimension - akin to the Metaphysics. We die a little when we dream in sleep. When we dream in sleep, it is the Soul leaving to reacquaint itself with its own world. Our dearly departed ones visit us in our sleep when we dream of them, and do things with us. Complex situations and ideas are unravelled and simplified to us in dreams. Biblical prophets saw visions in dreams. We all possess the ability to imagine what in wakefulness eludes us, in dreams. We visit our Subconscious world when we sleep and dream. If we are fortunate, the essence of our being is revealed to us in dreams and we become more aware of who we are in consciousness.
It is no coincidence when people turn spiritual after Near Death Experiences. They are fortunate enough to have died and come back - usually with a specific purpose. Rather like waking up from a deep sleep and remembering a dream. Often such people find their lives change and take on a new meaning. They are no longer afraid of dying because they might have seen previously-departed loved ones and know they will resume their lives with them again one day. And behind all these uncertainties and certainties looms large the idea of God. He is the Ultimate Decision-maker who decides our decisions before we make them. He is the unknown quantity behind the causation of the Big Bang when He said 'Let there be Light.' The Big Bang caused an almighty flash of light when it happened. Or so we are told. But the proof of this is in the Bible. And it was there before the Einsteins and Hawkingses came along and tried to take the credit from God and give it to science. But, let me indulge myself here and ask, What is Science? Yes, science is scaled/measured Proof - Fact. It is having the concrete result of an experiment to show it can be proved. But is not Science itself an idea? Is it not intangible, in that it cannot be touched and felt? So could we not be naming God when we say the word 'science'?
From the foregoing it is obvious that I am a Christian. Not religious, as I do not ascribe to the idea of Religion. I am just a believer in the ideas of God and Jesus Christ - unashamedly so. And I make no excuses for that. And, we have proof that Jesus did exist among humans.
With a pinch of salt is the short answer!
Presumably, there were two myths that became mixed together. You may wonder how such obviously contraditory stories managed to appear in the bible, but, for many years, it would have been inconceivable to point out such things. In Britain it used to be illegal to claim that anything in the gospels was untrue (hence the expression Gospel truth).
Can a guy claim you as his in mind body and soul?
This is a red flag. You should be partners, with your own individual choices with respect for one another's opinions. This comment is very romantic, but not practical for a long term relationship.
Hopefully, he is flexible on this idea! Not unless you give him the power to. IF YOU dont want to be a part of his life, then you do everything in your power to get away from him. If he starts getting creepy or abusive, call the police. Let other people in your family and circle of friends that he is being possessive and get their help. Besides, if he is trying to say you are soul mates, that does NOT mean you are his mind, body and soul. Soul mates are where everything that each one of you does, compliments what the other does and you are at all times on a peaceful ground with one another. You cant be his mind because you cant think for him, you cant be his body because you have your own and you cant be his soul because we all have one to a body. Sounds like this guy needs a little help in the mental department.
Religiously how did God create men?
With the exception of mankind, we are only told what God made, not how He made it. That fact is in order to stress mankind's importance.
To make man, God fashioned the appropriate shape from dirt and breathed a soul into it (Genesis ch.2). He then made the first woman by fashioning her from a piece of the man's flesh (ibid).
Day by day, God created the universe and its contents (Genesis ch.1).God created the universe out of nothing (Exodus 20:11, Isaiah 40:28; Rashi commentary to Genesis 1:14; Maimonides' "Guide," 2:30).Note that the Torah, in describing the Creation, deliberately employs brevity and ellipsis, just as it does in many other topics. See the Talmud, Hagigah 11b.
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How did the world originate acsording to Satanism?
A LaVeyan (non-theistic) Satanist is left to his or her own devices on deciding how the world came into being. There's no dogma or omnipotent god that willed the universe into being. So the typical Satanic creation "myth" would probably sound a lot like the scientific one.
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They beleave that god created it.They jsut worship Satan instead cuz god's a jerk, that won't accept people with birth deficiencies or glasses....
HAIL SATAN!!!!!!!
When will humans be equipped with the necessary knowledge to settle the creation evolution argument?
The Evolution Viewpoint:
Basically, that argument was settled somewhere between 150 and 100 years ago. From that time on, we had enough understanding of the processes of life, of reproductive variation and inheritance, to state with reasonable confidence that modern lifeforms emerged from earlier forms, that they share common ancestors in a pattern of nested hierarchies, that one of the primary mechanisms driving this change is natural selection, and that the biblical creation myth is just that: a myth.
Of course not all humans are equipped with this understanding; many, through their own choice or through chance, are never sufficiently acquainted with the principles and facts involved to see for themselves why evolutionary theory is now as much proven as any scientific theory ever will be. But mankind as a whole now knows where it came from, and that's the thing.
And never will these two view points be the same. One is science and one is religion. Galileo was imprisoned for his view point that the Earth wasn't the center of the universe. All his writings were taken from him and he was not permitted to communicate again. That is how religion wants to handle what doesn't fit their beliefs. They will not see any other view point.
Science does know now and will not need to wait until the "end of times" called the Big Rip by science.
Biblical Viewpoint :
The controversy will be settled when Jesus Christ returns to earth to establish His Kingdom here. When the surviving remnants of the nations of the earth's nations that come out of the prophesied Great Tribulation [Matt.24:21-22] SEE HIM standing on the earth [verses 30-31 & Zech.14:4]... then:
"IN THAT DAY the LORD will make Himself known to the Egyptians... For the Egyptians will turn to the LORD, and He will listen to their pleas and heal them... The Egyptians and Assyrians will move freely between their lands, and they will worship the same God. And Israel will be their ally. The three will be together, and Israel will be a blessing to them. For the LORD Almighty will say, 'Blessed be Egypt, My people. Blessed be Assyria, the land I have made. Blessed be Israel, My special possession!'" (Isa.19:21-25 NLT New Living Translation)
When all men SEE Christ in person approaching earth with His angelic army, all of their foolish arguments [the evolution/creation controversy, included] will dissolve into "belief," "understanding"... and DREAD... when the god of this world, Satan, the god of deception and lies, is removed from influencing the nations and from blinding the spirits of men.
"...there will be deep mourning among ALL THE NATIONS of the earth. And they will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds of heaven with Power and Great Glory." (Matt. 24:30 NLT)
And it won't happen a moment before.
Additional Comments:
Ironically, it seems the more science discovers, especially in genetics/DNA the more it becomes apparent that a 'grand design' from a Creator or Lawmaker is at work. The conclusions from mitochondrial DNA (female part) or mtDNA limits the descent of mankind to between 135,000 and less than 100,000 years. Our best dating method used for organic material is Carbon-14 dating which is limited to maximum accuracies of up to 25,000 - 30,000 years with older dating more guesswork than science. Quite a damper to millions of years for us to evolve - slowly changing via the 'fittest' within species (note: the human infant is the most vulnerable and least fit to survive). Indeed, astronomy, geology, archaeology and many more disciplines are supporting the words of the Scripture. Time will tell, however, and the thing to remember is that it is the interpretations of Scripture by various people - bettern known as religion - that has been misleading and even wrong in the past. The biblical teachings, letting the Scripture interpret itself as revealed to mankind, has not.
What would happen if humans and dinosaurs lived together?
Humans, being the small, soft, squishy and weak organisms that we are, would be wiped out by carnivores such as Velociraptor.
If we had somehow managed to develop intelligence before the end, and could somehow have created enough proper defenses, we would likely live in a world similar to today's. Albeit with much bigger livestock and far worse natural predators than the wolf and lion.
Paragraph on the man is supreme creation of God?
ravi kotak the main is the supreme creation of God. Every one know that is this world God created the man as dominent than all the creation of God.
The Bible doesn't specifically say. The NIV says that God made Adam from the ground.
According to Islam Every human is made of sand. And Adam was also a human he was made of sand as well like every person on earth.
When did the creation theory originate?
The belief in Creation is as old as humanity. It is a worldwide tradition (not theory) going back to the earliest evidence of human society. See also:
What are the mysteries of the creation of the world?
The Apostle Paul, in the Book of His Letter to the Hebrews in the Bible answers this question quite well:
"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear." Hebrews 11:3.
Mysteries in Scripture are revealed to faithful believers in Christ. In Ephesians 3;8,9, Paul tells us of his calling to preach, which included the revealing of the mystery of a believer having fellowship with Jesus, the Creator, and all who believe in Him:
"Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ."
This is the mystery of creation, according to Scripture - "the worlds were framed by the word of God" and through Jesus Christ - not by mere happenstance.
What is the relevance of seven days of creation?
The seven days of Divine Creation, which is contained in Genesis, states that God created the universe. This teaches us that God exists, that our lives and the world are not random, and that the created things may be assumed to contain vast wisdom in their beautiful and purposeful design. (In recent decades, this wisdom has indeed been partially revealed, through increasingly powerful microscopes.)Evolution through random mutations, on the other hand, may be understood as implying that life is an accident, that perceived beauty and wisdom are ultimately purposeless, and that our instinctive yearning for the Eternal is just an electrical impulse in our brain.
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Purely as a biblical - not scientific - answer, Genesis tells us that the world was pre-existing and uncreated, not that it was already inhabited. Many scholars have examined the Hebrew text and say that Genesis really is telling us that the world was already there when God began his creation.
For more information, please visit: http://christianity.answers.com/theology/the-story-of-creation
What was the oldest global religion to arise west of the Indus river?
Zoroastrianism
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What is the difference between the Aboriginal dreamtime and the dreaming?
the differance betwwen the Dreamtime and the Dreaming is on is a place inhabited by the collective dream of humanity overseen by thee Fae courts and the Dreamtime wich is the primal essence were gods are born and unverses created
What day was the first woman created?
Day 6.
Although Adam was not actually Adam before Eve was made. The original Hebrew Bible has a separate word for the human before Eve is made suggesting that there was a non-gendered 'human' which god then divided into a male and a female. This is discussed in Peter Vardy's 'The puzzle of S**' where he talks about how a lot of the bible was actually mistranslated from the original Hebrew.
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baby girl- Nora
baby boy- Daniel
goth girl- Chloe
smart girl- Madison or Emma
cute girl- Sally
What is the situation of the people when the Book of Genesis was written?
The Book of Genesis was actually written over a period of several centuries, by a number of authors known to us today as the Yahwist ('J' source), Elohist ('E' source), Deuteronomist ('D' source) and the Priestly ('P') source. We know this because each author had his own distinctive style and regional context, as well as from variations over time in the Hebrew language. The Yahwist lived early in the first millennium BCE and wrote from the perspective of the southern kingdom, Judah. The Elohist also lived early in the first millennium BCE but wrote from the perspective of the northern kingdom, Israel. The Deuteronomist lived in Judah during the reign of King Josiah. The Priestly source lived during or shortly after the Babylonian Exile. Archaeologists tell us that Judah, in the ninth or tenth century BCE, when the Yahwist was writing, was a relatively impoverished rural kingdom. The people mainly lived in villages and small towns. Israel, in around the ninth century BCE, when the Yahwist was writing, was a relatively prosperous and expansive kingdom. There were some walled cities. When the Deuteronomist was writing, in the 7th century BCE, Judah was by now a prosperous, somewhat autonomous kingdom based on its capital, Jerusalem. The Priestly source probably began to write after the Persian conquest of Babylonian. It was a time of hope and return for the Jewish people. There was no longer a Davidic line to rule Judah, and the Priestly class was staking its claim to domination of the restored nation.
What is Phantom Particles and does it disprove the Creation Theory of the Judaeo-Christians?
Phantom particles are particles that come in and out of existence on the quantum level. Space "bubbles" with these particles, but because they are matter/anti-matter pairs and self annihilate quickly they do not count as matter or energy being created. It does have ramifications for the origin of the matter in our universe since the big bang event involved 1,000,000 particles of anti-matter forming for every 100,000,001 particles of matter in a manner that is very similar to how phantom particles form. Still, there are more questions than answers.
The creation myth of the Judaic faiths has talking animals in it, thus it refutes itself. It was never any kind of answer at all.
What is the most important question addressed by the two creation stories in the Book of Genesis?
The most important question addressed by the narrative of Creation (Genesis 1-2) is Why we are here. The answer is that we are a purposeful creation by God, to whom we owe our obedience.
Note that according to tradition, there is only one Genesis creation-narrative, with ch.2 serving as an expansion of the brevity of ch.1, not a separate set of events (Rashi commentary, Gen. 2:8).
The same literary devices which the Torah employs to enrich its text, have been used by Bible-critics in an attempt to reassign its authorship.
The Jewish sages, based on ancient tradition, identified many of these devices, which include:
recapping earlier brief passages to elucidate,
employing different names of God to signify His various attributes,
using apparent changes or redundancies to allude to additional unstated details,
speaking in the vernacular that was current during each era,
and many more. While Judaism has always seen the Torah as an intricate tapestry that nonetheless had one Divine source, some modern authors such as Wellhausen (the father of modern Biblical-criticism, 1844-1918) have suggested artificially chopping up the narrative and attributing it to various authors, despite the Torah's explicit statement as to its provenance (Exodus 24:12, Deuteronomy 31:24). This need not concern believers, since his claims have been debunked one by one, as archaeology and other disciplines have demonstrated the integrity of the Torah. No fragments have ever been found that would support his Documentary Hypothesis, which remains nothing more than an arbitrary claim:
Refuting the JEPD Documentary Hypothesis
The creation-narrative in Genesis (a Christian author)
How justified is the claim that all godly prophets and their followers are Muslims?
Another answer from our community:
The claim is simply justified by the fact that Islam (as an Arabic word) in its universal sense means submission to God. All God creatures were created on submission (Islam) to God. They have no choice rather than submission (Islam) to God. However, on mankind creation they were given the choice to do the good or the bad, to maintain full submission (Islam) to God as the one and only one God or not. Accordingly, over history, God assigned his prophets to call their people to Islam (submission to God) with no partner and no associate. Muslims believe Islam is the real mission of all God prophets; including Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad (peace be upon them all) and all their followers are Muslims. However,
A manifestation of the glory and beauty of God creations. Sunset gives the feeling of end of a good day and hoping for another good day full of love, peace, and God mercy and blessings.
What did God do on the seventh day?
God is light=energy. During the six days of Creation, He utilized/expended/gifted His energy to effect Creation. For example, light ionized hydrogen to kick-start the Big Bang in the exact location of Earth; burning the hydrogen as super-hot plasma, producing all the elements present in the Universe, when cooled down generating life sustaining water-the watery planet. Creating all the stars/celestial bodies to fill the Universe-likewise required an energy source, which is God. By the seventh day, even God had to take rest. ( jgd-2022]