Urban Legends

An urban legend is a type of modern folklore which includes stories perceived to be true by the teller. It is mainly circulated through the words of mouth and is sometimes repeated in news versions.

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Urban Legends

Was there really a Carmen Winstead?


History of England
Urban Legends

What is the legend of Bloody Mary?

Bloody Mary

Bloody Mary is a children's street legend, usually that the ghost of a local woman, named Mary, will appear and kill you if you say her name three times while looking in a mirror.

There are many variations of the legend, including that it has to be a bathroom mirror, or varying the number of times the name must be spoken.

None of them are true! You can say "Bloody Mary" as many or as few times as you wish, while looking or not looking in any kind of a mirror and NOTHING WILL HAPPEN.

Bloody Mary is also a name given (by her opponents) to Queen Mary I of England. She was called this because under her reign, almost 300 so-called heretics were executed or burned at the stake for refusing to follow her religious beliefs.

The Mary Worth (also known as Bloody Mary, Mary Margaret, etc) story is popular at sleepovers. As the story goes, a beautiful young girl named Mary Worth was in some sort of terrible accident (or occasionally the wounds are inflicted purposely by a jealous party), and her face was hideously deformed. From then on, she is shunned by other people, and she sometimes becomes a witch.

Urban Legends

Is Jeff the killer real?

No he’s not real I have to believe in god he’s more powerful than anyhting

Urban Legends

What is a fried rice disease?

You wouldn't wanna see it its a disease for guys on there dick.

It looks like chicken fried rice all around.

I don't know how you get it look up ( chicken fried rice disease picture )

and you are gonna be able to see it.

Warning : Really Eww.

Conditions and Diseases
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Does cracking your knuckles lead to arthritis?

Arthritis and Cracking KnucklesThe reason people associate knuckle-cracking with arthritis because it makes a cracking noise and, if something cracks, it must be being damaged. However, the truth is that nothing is being cracked.

A joint is any place where the ends of two bones meet. Where the bones come together they have a covering of "articular cartilage." This is surrounded by the "joint capsule," inside of which there is synovial fluid. Synovial fluid is the lubricant for the joint and also serves as a source of nutrients for the cells that look after the cartilage.

Synovial fluid has dissolved oxygen, nitrogen, and carbon dioxide within it. When the right pressure is applied to a joint, the area inside the joint capsule expands. However, the expansion is limited by how much synovial fluid is contained in the joint. Synovial fluid cannot expand unless pressure inside the joint capsule drops and the dissolved gases can escape out of the fluid. The cracking sound comes from the gases rapidly being released from the fluid.

There have been a few studies to see whether or not cracking knuckles caused arthritis. None have found that there was an increase of arthritis among knuckle-crackers; nevertheless, a relationship was discovered between knuckle-cracking, hand swelling and lower grip strength, damage to ligaments surrounding the joints and dislocation of tendons.

The conclusion of the studies indicated that while knuckle-cracking was not associated with arthritis, it was associated with damage to ligaments that surround the joint and dislocation of tendons. There may also be a connection with soft tissue injuries.

For those that would like a more in depth view of tests done on a sample of 300 knuckle-crackers, go to the Related Link below.

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  • Cracking your knuckles wears away the cartilage between the joints over a long period of time. This is one of the causes of arthritis. Other causes of arthritis are completely unrelated, like for example, you can inherit it from your parents, or get it because of a disease like Lupus. So, I guess if you might get it anyway, and you might not know if it was your's or your parents fault, go ahead and crack away.
  • Don't listen to those people that tell you cracking your knuckles will cause you to have arthritis. At this point it's just a speculation, not wild, but certainly not founded on anything but misconceptions. All you're doing is playing with the physiology and chemistry of your body a bit. There are good and bad sides to this. Here's a rather complete site if you want to read more (which keeps me from typing it all out): howstuffworks.
  • No, of course it doesn't. A study focused on 300 habitual knuckle crackers found no evidence linking knuckle cracking and arthritis. Chronic crackers did suffer other harm, including soft tissue damage and loss of grip strength. This damage is usually minor, however, and cracking your knuckles actually has some benefits -- you'll feel looser and enjoy more mobility in your joints immediately after popping.
  • No, it only elongates the joints over time and gives you the appearance of longer fingers.
  • No. I'm 20 and I have been cracking my knuckles (toes, back, neck...) since third grade. My knuckles, if I pull the skin tight are a bit larger than normal, but it's not noticeable. My fingers don't look long to me.
  • This is an old wife's tale that has been debunked many times. The crackling sound when you 'crack' your knuckles is just the release of gases (nitrogen if I recall) back into your bloodstream. No one has ever shown that this is in any way harmful but it can be annoying if done habitually. That's probably why the arthritis story originated, an annoyed parent wanted to scare his kids into stopping the practice.
  • I am a paramedic student and EMT, and have also posed this question to my anatomy professor in the past and to nurse and paramedic instructor back in paramedic school. All cracking your knuckles does is release gas build up between the joints and has nothing to do with arthritis. P.S.: The cracking of knuckles is nothing compaired to the every day abuse the joints go through in every day normal use.
  • It takes 20+ minutes for the gases and fluids to get back into your knuckles to get poped again. and it has been proven that the worst thing that can happen is a slightly stretched ligament which is not harmful at all. it is perfectly fine. Don't do your neck though: let the chiropractors do that.
  • Not everybody's joints crack. Some people have a larger separation between the bones and some people can't relax enough to allow the bones to separate. If you can crack and your mom tells you, you're going to get arthritis, she's just yanking your chain. There is no scientific evidence that cracking your knuckles leads to arthritis. However, it can't be good to repeatedly push a joint beyond its normal physical range. Besides that, it's annoying. Cracking your knuckles can cause a decrease in your grip but unless you're signing any multi-million dollar contracts as a pitcher, it's not worth giving up. But it's still annoying.
  • Of course it doesn't. I've been doing it for years and if anything, it increases felxibility and keeps your fingers supple. I would know, I play the guitar and the piano and it always helps.
  • No is your answer, i am a sports and fitness major and i have askeds many of my Prof. and they all say the same thing there is no evidence that cracking your knuckles inflames the joints and leads to arthritis. the cracking causes the bones to pull apart, forming a gas bubble in the joint, and that's what makes the sound.
  • There has never been a meaningful study done that has shown knuckle cracking to be harmful to the finger joints. 25% of Americans crack habitually.
  • Cracking your knuckles will likely not cause arthritis. There is no evidence that it will. However, as a long time knuckle cracker I can tell you that there are dangers to knuckle cracking. You can sprain your joints if you are not careful.
  • I have always cracked my fingers, toes and arm. I also have arthritis and know that it is inherited from my mother (who does not crack). Has anyone thought about maybe it could be the other way around, maybe having arthritis even in the early stages makes some people need to crack their joints. Maybe it is a condition where some people have excess nitrogen buildup in their joints, making them feel uncomfortable and causing pain and related some how to having arthritis.
  • It has been found that there is no relationship between arthritis and knuckle-cracking. There are two main types of arthritis osteo which is non inflammatory form of arthritis, and rheumatoid arthritis which is an autoimmune disease effecting the joints.
  • No there is absolutely no evidence that knuckle-cracking causes any sort of arthritis.
  • Arthritis is a problem that causes a wearing away of normal joint surfaces. Joints are the points where two bones meet each other. These junctions have special linings on the bones to allow motion at the joints. When this special lining (cartilage) is worn away, arthritis is the condition that results.
  • Finger and thumb arthritis is common, because there are 27 bones in each hand! This means that there are many joints in the fingers that can develop arthritis. Furthermore, we are very dependent on our fingers for many normal activities. Any problem that affects these joints can limit many normal activities.
Urban Legends

Is the Carmen Winsted curse true?

Urban Legends

What is the Carmen Winstead story?

The Carmen Winstead story was the first urban legend spread through MySpace, and then through other sites. See the related link for more info. Some of our users demonstrated how the story is spread through the account below:


This story is true as i was a student at the school which i am not legally allowed to give the name of, here is the story...

There was a girl named Carmen Winstead who had transferred to a new school and she had only been there for a few months. A group of girls had pretended to be Cramen's friend so they could embarress her and make a fool out of herself.

One night during a fire drill the group of girls and Carmen had to go out to the front of the building for a roll check. On the way to the front of the school they walked past an open sewer drain and the group of girls pushed her in. The rest of the girls ran to the front of the school expecting her to come out eventually, as the roll was being marked, Carmens name was called and the girls said she had fallen down the sewer drain. So the teachers had contacted the police, once Carmen had been retrieved from the bottom of the sewer, they discovered that the skin and flesh had been ripped off the side of her face from being scraped along the rusty ladder peices. Her neck had also been broken from hitting the concrete at the bottom and she was dead. Everybody from that same school who believed that the girls had actually pushed her heard laughing and giggling from everywhere that lead to a sewer.

One morning, the girls who had pushed her down the sewer drain had gone missing and were all found in the same sewer drain that they had pushed Carmen down during the fire drill. They all had the flesh ripped off the side of their faces and they all had broken necks.

this story is true and i know for a fact that it is true as one of the girls that pushed Carmen in was my sister. we were devastated at what had happened and were so creeped out that we moved away from the area and from the school. the rumours were also true as whenever you walked past the sewer at which Carmen fell into you could here giggling and laughing. me and my family were not harmed just scarred with absolute grief and fear. i still dream about it now but as a warning do not go pushing any girls into a sewer as your life could become in danger!!!!!

i got this story in a forward and it creeped me out but i don't believe it nor do i forward forwards i don't believe in goasts becuz they r not real u can say wat u want but the only way i will believe in ghoasts is if i c 1 with my very eyes 1 haunts me or i witness something like this then hear the laughter

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A local hotel is haunted by a famous inn spectre ghost buster lexintan rejn needs what if your help?

Peter sellers

Waste and Recycling
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Drinking Water

Why is it a bad idea to freeze water in a plastic container?

If you try to freeze water, juice or other liquids in a closed plastic container without leaving room for expansion, your container will crack or burst. I fill plastic bottles or jugs with liquid, leaving plenty of room at the top for expansion. Once the liquid is frozen, then you can safely tighten the lid and then when you want to take it off use warm water to wash it then take it off.

The reason why it's a bad idea to freeze water in a sealed plastic container is because the container can break. I would say if the water bottle is full and you freeze it then burst open and then it will be an even bigger mess then if you just started with a half full bottle. Which works just as well.

Leave at least a 1/4 of the plastic without water because water expands.

Other notes:

Jugs of ice keep the freezer from having to work as hard to cool the compartment, assuming you don't keep your freezer space full of food. In the event of a power outage the chunks of ice can help prevent the loss of your food for a little longer. It is NOT indefinite, but it does help for brief periods of time. My freezer lasted two days during a summer hurricane.

There is a myth going around that freezing water in a plastic container causes the plastic to release dioxin, and thereby causes breast cancer. This is not true.

Urban Legends

Did David Gregory really die?

Fables and Folklore
Urban Legends

How do zombies attack?

Zombies attack by feeding on human brains. In many video games and films, (e.g. call of duty WAW: Nazi zombies) they are seen using physical violence. Before this, the story was zombies fed on peoples brains. So you can choose which choice you think zombies attack!

Fables and Folklore
Urban Legends
The End of the World (apocalypse)

What is the dance drama on myths and legend?


  • Myths and legends in Bali often have a lesson or moral
  • Balinese myths and legends are filled with animals with human characteristics, spirits, ghosts, magic, and ordinary people overcoming extraordinary situations
  • Kbo Iwo is a myth about how Bali`s Lake Batur and Mount Batur were formed
  • Many Balinese myths and legends are retold through dance and drama
  • The Ramayana (the story of Rama) is a well-known legend and often retold with the use of shadow puppets

Myths and legends

Balinese myths and legends are retold to each new generation so that their lessons and morals are constantly passed on. They are most commonly passed down by parents or grandparents to children through the oral retelling of stories. Different art forms are also a popular way of expressing many of the island's myths and legends. The Balinese people often tell their stories through dance, drama, textile designs, puppetry and music.

Balinese myths and legends are often filled with characters of animals with human characteristics, spirits, ghosts, magic and ordinary people who overcome extraordinary situations. Many stories are important as they teach children ideas about their land, traditions and customs.

Kbo Iwo

Kbo Iwo is the myth which tells how Bali's Lake Batur and Mount Batur were formed (see image 1). It is believed that there was once a giant as tall as a mountain who roamed the island, called Kbo Iwo. He would help the Balinese people build temples and villages, dig ditches and cut terraces out of the hillsides for rice paddies. All he asked for in return for his help was food. His appetite was enormous, however, and there was never enough food to satisfy him. His hunger would sometimes make him angry and he would destroy the things that he helped to build and then eat the villagers.

One year there was a very poor harvest of food and the Balinese people could barely feed themselves, much less a giant. This angered Kbo Iwo so much that he rampaged across the island, killing and destroying everything in sight until all the homes, rice fields and temples were ruined. The people were very angry with Kbo Iwo and gathered together to decide how to stop him. They planned to make friends with the giant again and then kill him.

The people begged Kbo Iwo to help rebuild the temples, homes and rice fields that he had destroyed in his rampage. The giant agreed and worked at replacing everything that he had destroyed. The Balinese people then asked him to build a well, which he started digging. As he dug, the earth piled high next to the well. The pile was as high as a mountain.

After eating, the giant fell asleep in the well. Whilst he was sleeping the people poured huge amounts of lime (a sticky substance) down the well. The lime set around the giant and when he woke up he was unable to escape.

The well then began to fill with water and it soon overflowed to become a lake. Today many believe that the lake is Lake Batur, Bali's largest lake. The pile of earth that Kbo Iwo dug out of the well is believed to be Mount Batur, Bali's third-largest volcanic mountain.

The Ramayana

The Ramayana, or The Story of Rama, is one of the most well-known stories in Indonesia. It originates from India but has been modified over the last 2000 years. It is an epic tale known by almost all Balinese people because it has been told so many times. Shadow puppets are used in the most common form of its retelling (Wayang Kulit - see image 2). This performance uses shadow puppets to retell the story over many hours.

The basic storyline of the Ramayana legend is that there was a king who exiled his eldest son, the prince, to the forests of Dandaka for 14 years. The prince, Rama, went without question but his wife, Sita, and one of his brothers, Laksmana, would not leave his side and went into the forest with him.

They began to build a home and because the forest was filled with evil and unknown creatures, the prince created an invisible wall around the house to protect his wife.

A monster king, Rawana, discovered the home and saw Sita and thought she was the most beautiful woman he had ever seen. He plotted with his brother to kidnap Sita.

Rama and Laksmana, on discovering Sita was gone, began searching for her. The bird Jatayu, king of the birds, had seen what had happened but had been stabbed and was dying. He was able to tell Rama what he had seen before dying.

Rama and Laksmana headed towards the kingdom of the monkeys and their king, Sugriwa, agreed to help them find Sita. Once they reached the coast, there was no way to cross the sea. The monkeys worked for seven days and seven nights to create a causeway (a path over water) using boulders and tree trunks. They crossed immediately and were confronted by an army of giants sent by Rawana. The monkeys, however, defeated the giants.

A number of battles occurred after they defeated the giants. During one battle, Rama sped towards Rawana shooting arrows as he ran. Although his arrows would not kill Rawana, they were able to push him further backwards until he slammed into two boulders and became stuck. The two rocks began to crush him. It was believed the rocks contained the souls of his two daughters whom he had killed. He was imprisoned between these rocks until he died.

Rama ran Rawana's palace where he found Sita alive and unharmed. Rama, Sita and Laksmana returned to the forest to continue their 14 years of exile. On returning to their kingdom, Rama was made rightful king and ruled his people for many years.

Other Balinese myths and legends

The Balinese culture is filled with many myths and legends about all aspects of life from creation to death.


Antaboga (the world serpent) comes from traditional Balinese mythology. It is believed that Antaboga was the only thing to exist at the beginning of time and through meditation it created the turtle Bedwang (the world turtle). It is thought that all other creations came from Bedwang.


According to traditional Balinese mythology, Rangda was a terrifying demon queen. She led an army of evil witches who fought againt Barong, who led the forces of good. The word rangda means widow in Indonesia and many people believe that this myth is based on reality.

There was once a Javanese queen, Manendradatta, who was exiled by her husband, Dharmodayana, for using witchcraft. The queen took revenge and began to kill the kingdom with a plague. She was finally stopped by a holy man and it is believed that Rangda was this queen in some form. The Balinese culture depicts Rangda's struggles with Barong and her son in a popular drama/dance. She is most often depicted as having long and messy hair, claws, fangs, and big eyes.

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Setesuyara and Batara Kala

Setesuyara and Batara Kala are both underworld goddesses. They are thought to be the gods of the underworld who rule from a cave. Batara Kala is also known as the creator of the light and the earth.

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Chinese Food

Is bourbon chicken really cat meat?


Bourbon Chicken is chicken marinated in a sauce composed of soy sauce, brown sugar, ginger, and bourbon whiskey (whence the name comes).

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Onions and Garlic

What ingredients are in Heinz ketchup?

Heinz ketchup contains tomato concentrate made from red ripe tomatoes, distilled vinegar, high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, salt, spice, onion powder, and natural flavors. This ketchup is high in lycopene as well.

Here's 2 more answers:

Tomato Paste (Made from ripe tomatoes), Liquid Sugar, White Vinegar, Salt, Orion Powder, Spices

Salt, Sugar, Lactose Syrup, Red Ripe Tomato's, Onion Pepper, Spice's, and Natural Flavouring.

Urban Legends

Did david Gregory realy die?

No, it is an urban legend.

See the related question below.

Acronyms & Abbreviations
Urban Legends

Is G.O.L.F. an acronym?

No. One theory is that the word "golf" actually comes from the dutch word "kolf" meaning "club".

The idea that the game of golf is derived from "Gentlemen Only, Ladies Forbidden" is an urban legend. The word "golf" first appeared in the 15th century. There are several theories as to where it came from, but no one ever suggested the acronym theory until the 20th century.

Urban Legends

Is David Gregory dead?

2 months ago a 16 year old boy called David Gregory received a pass it on text and didn't send it on. when he went to take a shower he heard laughing. He started freaking out and he went to his phone to send it on. He went to sleep, 5 hours later his mom woke up because of a loud noise. David was gone that morning, a few hours later his body was found in a sewer, his neck broken and his skin on his face torn off.


That is simply the forwarded text that people forward in fear but I always research such things instead of sending on chain texts.

First of all: Does it make ANY sense that if he was missing that morning, his body would be found a few hours later? Nope. No police force is going to start looking that quickly first of all because it takes 24 hours to be considered a missing person and his mother only heard "a loud noise". So what police detective is going to say "Wow! That must not've been him waking up and leaving but more likely - it's a crazy haunted girl and hey you know what? I'll be he's in the sewers let's go!" Not gonna effin happen.

don't forget that he wouldn't have recived a text saying about how HE headr screaming when HE was still alived?

it wouldn't have had the threat of HIS death, but ohhh, i sent it on anyway :L

Here is the full story.

Bullying killed her.

There and then, Carmen decided that she couldn't take the bullying any longer. She planned to stay behind, that evening, after school, and tell her teacher what had been happening. Unfortunately, her decision came too late to save her life.

After lunch, her teacher announced that the school was holding a fire drill. When the alarm sounded, Carmen and the other students filed out of the classroom and assembled in the yard outside. As the teachers read out the roll call, the gang of five girls decided that this was a great opportunity to embarrass Carmen in front of the whole school during the fire drill. They moved over to where Carmen was standing, near a sewer drain, and began crowding the poor girl, getting in her face and nudging her towards the open manhole.

They pushed her and she tripped over and fell head-first down the manhole. When they saw her falling, the girls started giggling and when Carmen's name was called out, they shouted "Shes down in the sewer!"

All of the other students began laughing. But when the teachers looked down the manhole and saw Carmen's body lying at the bottom in the muck and the poop, the laughter abruptly stopped. Her head was twisted around at an odd angle and her face was covered in blood. Worse still, she wasn't moving. There was nothing any of the teachers could do for her. Carmen was dead. When the police arrived and went down into the sewer, they determined that she had broken her neck. Her face had been torn off when she hit the ladder on the way down and her neck snapped when she landed on her head on the concrete at the bottom.

The police hauled Carmen's body out of the sewer and sent her to the mortuary. Everyone had to stay behind after school while the police questioned all of Carmen's classmates. The five girls lied to the police, saying they had witnessed Carmen falling down the sewer. The police believed the girls and Carmen Winstead's death was ruled an accident and the case was closed. Everyone thought that was the last they would hear of Carmen Winstead, but they were wrong.

Months later, Carmen's classmates began receiving strange e-mails on their MySpaces. The e-mails were titled "They Pushed Her" and claimed that Carmen hadn't really fallen down the sewer, she had been pushed. The e-mails also warned that the guilty people should own up and take responsibility for their crime. If they didn't there would be horrible consequences. Most people dismissed the e-mails as a hoax, but others were not so sure.

A few days later, one of the girls who pushed Carmen down the sewer was at home taking a shower, when she heard a strange cackling laugh. It seemed to be coming from the drain. The girl started to freak out and ran out of the bathroom. That night, the girl said goodnight to her mom and went to sleep. Five hours later, her mom was awoken in the middle of the night, by a loud noise that resounded throughout the house. She ran into her daughters room, only to find it empty. There was no trace of the girl. The worried mother called the police and when they arrived, they conducted a search of the area. Eventually, they discovered the girls grisly remains.

Her corpse was lying in the sewer, covered in muck and poop. Her neck was broken and her face missing. It had been completely torn off. One by one, all of the girls who pushed Carmen that day were found dead. They had all been killed in exactly the same way and were all found at exactly the same spot. In the sewer at the bottom of the same uncovered manhole where Carmen had met her doom. But the killing didn't stop there. More and more of Carmen's former classmates were found dead. It seemed that anyone who didn't believe that Carmen had been pushed, was eventually found down in the sewer with their necks broken and their faces torn off.

They say that Carmen's ghost is still on the rampage, hunting down anyone who doesn't believe her story. According to the legend, Carmen will get you, whether from a toilet, a shower, a sink or a drain. When you go to sleep, you'll wake up in the sewer, in complete darkness, paralyzed, unable to move, hearing cackling laughter all around you. Then, as you scream in horror, Carmen will come and tear your face off.

So be careful who you bully, because you just might find yourself on the receiving end of the curse of Carmen Winstead.

FACT: About two months later, 16-year-old David Gregory read this post and didn't repost it. When he went to take a shower, he heard laughter, started freaking out, and ran to his computer to repost it. He said goodnight to his mom and went to sleep, but five hours later, his mom woke up in the middle of the night from a loud noise and David was gone. A few hours later, the police found him in the sewer, with a broken neck and the skin on his face peeled off.

Even Google her name - you'll find this to be true.

Repost this if your against bullying- rather scared right now

Tattoos and Body Art
Urban Legends

Did Mr. Rogers have tattoos on his arms?

Fred Rogers did indeed have two full sleeves of tattoos.
Urban Legends

What do you call a person that studys legends?

They are called cryptologist.

Conditions and Diseases
Urban Legends

If cracking your knuckles doesn't cause arthritis then why do I wake up with sore joints?

Cracking or popping your knuckles is the act of releasing gasses from the synovial joints in the fingers or what ever part you are popping. while it can cause some slight damage to the joints and stretching to ligaments, it certainly will not cause arthritis. the cause of which to date is not known. However the fact that you have this habit does not mean that you may not be suffering from some form of arthritis anyway. the best way to get answers to this is to have a word with your doctor and have the situation professionally assessed as soon as possible as early treatment can avert a lot of damage to joints.

Fables and Folklore
Urban Legends

Are shapeshifters immortal?

It depends but most of them are not.

Classic Movies
Urban Legends

Why did a munchkin hang himself?

This is a myth about "The Wizard of Oz" (1939). No munchkin committed suicide. Animals were brought in to roam the yellow brick road set. The scene where some people claim a munchkin hangs himself is simply a bird moving around in the background.

War and Military History
Care of Horses
Urban Legends

What is the meaning of the horse's position in military statues?

There is no specific DoD-formalized meaning to a horse's position on a statue, regardless of how many legs a horse may have on the ground or not.

Urban Legends

Why did David Gregory die?

The Urban Legend of David Gregory

The story of David Gregory is related to the urban legend of Carmen Winstead (see related question below for more info on Carmen). The chain text/email reads as follows:

About 6 years ago in Indiana, Carmen Winstead was pushed down a sewer opening by 5 girls in her school, trying to embarrass her in front of her school during a fire drill. When she didn't submerge the police were called. They went down and brought up 17-year-old Carmen Winstead's body, the neck broke hitting the ladder, then side concrete at the bottom. The girls told everyone she fell... they believed them.

Fact: Two months ago, 16-year-old David Gregory read this post and didn't repost it. When he went to take a shower he heard laughter from his shower, he started freaking out and ran to his computer to repost it. He said goodnight to his mom and went to sleep. Five hours later his mom woke up in the middle of the night because of a loud noise. David was gone. That morning a few hours later, the police found him in the sewer, his neck broke and his face skin peeled off.

And then the threat...

If you don't repost this saying: "She was pushed" or "They pushed her down a sewer" Then Carmen will get you, either from a sewer, the toilet, the shower or when you go to sleep you'll wake up in the sewer, in the dark, then Carmen will come and kill you.

The story of Carmen Winstead is not true. David Gregory is not dead. There is no need to fear for your life if you don't repost the status/send the email.

Urban Legends

What does 'Fornication Under Consent of the King' mean?

Nearly all these 'acronym' explanations for common naughty words such as f*** and sh** are nonsense. Any good reference dictionary will tell you the origin of such words, invariably considerably earlier than the supposed dates of the acronym.


Urban Legends and Folklore Origin of the F-Word

Netlore Archive

Description: Folk etymology Circulating since: The 1960s Status: False Analysis: See below

Variant #1 Email example contributed by T. McInnis, 22 March 2001:

In ancient England a person could not have sex unless you had consent of the King (unless you were in the Royal Family). When anyone wanted to have a baby, they got consent of the King, the King gave them a placard that they hung on their door while they were having sex. The placard had F.*.*.*. (Fornication Under Consent of the King) on it. Now you know where that came from.

Variant #2 From a Usenet posting, 1 November 1990:

The word f*** comes from colonial times, when someone would be punished for 'prostitution' It was an acronym for the words

'For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge' F*** was written on the stocks that held these criminals because For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge was too long to go on the stocks.

Variant #3 From a Usenet posting, 12 October 1990:

I always heard that "F.*.*.*." originated in the 1800's in London, when they used to charge prostitutes "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge". So officer got sick and tired of writing those, um, lessee, 26 characters, not including spaces, so it got abbreviated F*** and stuck.

Comments: Having consulted the definitive reference work on this subject (yes, there is such a thing: "The F-Word" by Jesse Sheidlower, published by Random House in 1999), we feel confident in dismissing the above claims as imaginative bunk.

The word f*** did not originate as an acronym. It crept, fully formed, into the English language from Dutch or Low German around the 15th century (it's impossible to say precisely when because so little documentary evidence exists, probably due to the fact that the word was so taboo throughout its early history that people were afraid to write it down). The American Heritage Dictionary says its first known occurrence in English literature was in the satirical poem "Flen, Flyss" (c.1500), where it was not only disguised as a Latin word but encrypted � gxddbov � which has been deciphered as fuccant, pseudo-Latin for "they f***."

According to Sheidlower, the earliest claims in print of supposed acronymic origins for the F-word appeared during the 1960s. An underground newspaper called the East Village Other published this version in 1967:

It's not commonly known that the word "f***" originated as a medical diagnostic notation on the documents of soldiers in the British Imperial Army. When a soldier reported sick and was found to have V.D., the abbreviation F.*.*.*. was stamped on his documents. It was short for "Found Under Carnal Knowledge." Two more variants appeared in a letter published in Playboy magazine in 1970:

My friend claims that the word f*** originated in the 15th Century, when a married couple needed permission from the king to procreate. Hence, Fornication Under Consent of the King. I maintain that it's an acronym of a law term used in the 1500s that referred to rape as Forced Unnatural Carnal Knowledge." Undoubtedly the most famous use of this etymological travesty was as the title of the 1991 Van Halen album, "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge."

Comments: Aside from the Latin "fuccant" as a basis of origin, the most logical variant that I have heard is the following. That even in the relatively crude times of the middle ages, the catholic church along with local governments, following religious doctrine, kept sins of the flesh and crime down with fairly stern punishments (i.e. beatings, hanging, burning, dismemberment).

This practice was only challenged after the first coinciding of the bubonic plague in England in the 1340's. After the conservatively estimated death tole of roughly 30 to 60 percent of the English population, the previously very militaristic King Edward III was faced with a shortage of manpower and with it, food supplies, infrastructure, and (probably most important to the king) public sentiment. Understandingly the list of offenses requiring death were shortened as adding insult to injury was not in the king's favor.

One method proposed to him for alleviating the population scarcity was "fornication under consent of the king" whereby, for a time, the crime of unlawful fornication was stricken from punishment if the person in question was unmarried. It was the hope that the royal decree (basically a scare tactic) would encourage more people to wed and in turn have children. Whether it worked or not is history's guess but as a cynical person I like this theory best.

one of the the most gory , bloody and tragic times in England history is time of HENRY VIII..because of plague, homicide,battles ,wars half of England population died and English army had insufficient soldiers. The King was worried about the future of Great Britain. At the end he has a research made and found out that there were lots of rascal men in jails and dungeons and so many prostitutes as well. So he decided to allow them to make love for increasing the population of England.

Mating was organized in jails between prostitutes and rascal men to provide population explosion. Since it was done by the permission of king it was known as " Fornication Under the Control of King" or abbreviated (FU_K). In 15 years population increased twofold. This is brief story of the word F_CK ..well also that point out the actual truth that half of English are illegitimate

The Variant # 1 is correct !! it was used in ancient time when the pplz had to take placard from the king before having sex otherwise they were punished !!

I have heard that it means "Fornicating Under Command of the King" which meant that they wanted to repopulate after the plague.

The true meaning of the f word is "fornication under the consent of the king". when foreign dignitaries would come visit the king, the trip would take days if not weeks or months. so they were issued a "f.**k. basically it was the right for the person to sleep with the eldest unwed female at which ever house he chose to spend the night.

Another Answer:

This is one of the false etymologies of the word f..k. Similarly, "Fornication Under the Command of the King" is also a false etymology.


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