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How many members are in the Roman Catholic Church?

As of 2010, there were 68.5 million Catholics in the U.S. This includes Roman (Latin) as well as a variety of Eastern Catholics.

For more information, see the statistics of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops:

What would nuns in the middle ages eat?

Very simple food. Barley soup and rye bread as well as vegetables and fruit they could grow.

What did the Catholic Church sell?

Catholic AnswerYou are thinking of indulgences, but you're wrong. This is another, "when did you stop beating your wife?" question. You can't answer it, because the premise is a lie. The Catholic Church never sold indulgences, ever. Nor, for that matter do indulgences have anything to do with forgiving sin. You need to understand the Christian concept of the Body of Christ: we are all members of the Body of Christ by our baptism. When one of us sins, we hurt the entire Body. Our Blessed Lord died on the cross to forgive our sins. We apply that forgiveness to ourselves in various ways, the first of which is baptism which wipes out everything up to that point in our lives. After baptism, Our Blessed Lord provided another Sacrament to remove serious sin (and venial {less serious}), that is confession. When you go to confession you must have contrition for your sins, confess all of them, and resolve to never to them again. Let me see if I can explain this another way:

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To understand indulgences you must first understand sin and its consequences.

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When one sins, one damages the Body of Christ, as, by our Baptism, we are all members of the Body of Christ, and everything we do, for good or ill, affects everyone.

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Say you are in the street in your neighborhood playing softball. You hit one and it goes flying across the street and through Mrs. Neighbor's front window. You put the bat down, walk across the street, knock on the door, and apologize to Mrs. Neighbor. She forgives you, since you were nice, and owned up to your fault. Up until now we have the basic scenario of someone going into confession and confessing their sins. But wait, notice that in my example, the window is still broken. You have to go home and confess to your father and mother that you broke the window, they, in turn, take your allowance for the next several years and pay to have the window fixed. The broken window is the example of how we damage the Body of Christ. The allowance that you have to fork over for the next several years is your penance. Now, an indulgence is based on the fact that when Jesus was a man living on the earth, his mother, and the other saints down through the centuries, have done more good works than they need to do their penances (in the case of Our Blessed Lord, and His mother, they had no need of penances, so all their good works are surplus), so, the Church, through Her power of the keys, can apply the merits of those good works to your penance. So in the example above, the indulgence is your parents fixing the window for you, and you are still going to get your allowance. You might have to fork over some of it to help, but they are not going to impoverish you for the next several years.

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That is what an indulgence is: it is the application of the good works of the saints to make up for your penances. Please note that they are only applicable to someone in a state of grace who has already been forgiven. They have NOTHING to do with the remission of sin. Without prior remission of sin, there can be no indulgence.

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Now, any good work can be used to obtain an indulgence in the Church, the classic works of penance are prayer, fasting, and almsgiving. The one that causes so much trouble back during the protestant revolt was an indulgence attached to almsgiving. For instance, you can earn a plenary indulgence now if you go to confession, go to Mass, receive Holy Communion, pray for the Holy Father, and do a good work, say a Rosary in front of the Blessed Sacrament, or in a family group. You used to be able to earn a Plenary Indulgence for all the same conditions, but instead of saying the Rosary, you could donate ANY sum of money for some good work the Church was involved with. In this particular case, it was rebuilding St. Peter's Basilica. Because of all the hysterics and false rumors, that is no longer possible. Bottom line? The Church has never sold indulgences, ever.

Who gave us Catholicism?

Jesus Christ did when the Church was founded at Pentecost [Acts 2]

What church has headquarters at Rome?

Christianity was proclamed the official religion of the roman empire on 550ish a.c. It means that the emperors where christians from then (or needed to be nice with the christian god.)

What was the Role of Catholic clergy in the Holocaust?

The answer to this is not straightforward, as they had different positions at different times, as the treatment of the Jews became worse.

We can credit many Roman Catholic clergy with saving and assisting in the saving of victims (especially children) of the Holocaust, but it the lead up and the early stages of the Holocaust they were not as motivated to help.

The criticism of the Roman Catholic clergy, and indeed Roman Catholics (outside of Poland) is generally that they did not do anything until they were under threat themselves. (ie. with the protest against the eugenics programme).

What do people wear to Polish funerals?

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Answer from a CatholicPeople wear the same thing to funerals no matter what nationality.

What age did Roman girls get married?

Roman girls were allowed to get married at the age of 12, but boys had to wait till they were 14.This was because people believed that a girl should get married when she reached the age of puberty, as then they would be able to give birth and the Roman believed that she would make a better wife. You had to be married by about 15-16 or you would be punished.

How did Roman Catholicism start?

It's just Catholic, not Roman Catholic. Roman is an epithet first commonly used in England after the protestant revolt to describe the Catholic Church. It is never used by the official Catholic Church. "Roman Catholic" thus began in England, but Catholicism began with Our Blessed Lord in Jerusalem. Christianity has been known as the Catholic Church since the first century.

Catholicism started fifty days after the first Easter, which was the day following Passover (early spring) in the year (approximately) 33 A.D., in other words, fifty-three days after Jesus' death on the cross when He sent the Holy Spirit down on the early church. That day is called Pentecost, which is the "birthday of the Church" and is celebrated each year fifty days after Easter. This year (2010) it will be the 23rd of May

The Catholic religion had is birthday on Pentecost Sunday in about the year 33 AD in the Cenacle (upper room) in Jerusalem. It was on that day that the apostles received the promised Holy Spirit who gave them the encouragement to begin spreading the Gospel. It quickly spread to other areas of the Roman Empire and, eventually, to the rest of the world.

Was Hitler Catholic?

Yes, he was Catholic, although he did not observe as many Catholic practices in his later years as he did in his youth. He did however, always pay his taxes to the Church.

AnswerHe was raised as a Catholic. However, as an adult it is not believed that he practiced the faith and his anti-semitic views are NOT catholic. The Jewish and Catholic faith are remarkably similar. The only difference is that Catholics accept Jesus as the Savior.

Answer #3 -- The correct and true answer is: no, Hitler was not a Catholic for several reasons:

1. He absolutely rejected the Catholic Faith & Christianity when he designed his own pagan-style religion: Germanic Aryanism. Hitler frequently lamented the demise of pantheistic & occultist Pre-Christian Roman religion. He also said that Shintoism & Islam would have been better fits with German Aryanism than Christianity.

2. While Hitler was born to a Catholic mother, his father was primarily a secularist. We have no idea what kind of Catholic (or anti-Catholic) instruction Adolf received as a child from his father or anyone else. We do know that Adolf attended Catholic school for one year as a young boy but he also did not want to be confirmed into the Catholic faith. That means that as early as age 11 or 12, Hitler had already rejected Catholicism.

3. Everything that Hitler became -- including his warped "religious" views from a very young age -- is totally contrary to authentic Catholic Christian teaching. The tenets of Mein Kampt and Nazism are anathema to Christianity and specifically to Catholicism.

4. Hitler was a socialist dictator. He created the Nazi Party -- the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Every pope, from the mid-1800s to the present, has condemned Socialism--and later, it's most extreme form: communism-- as evil, even using the word: "demonic" to describe both socialism and communism.

5. Hitler also despised Pope Pius XII and intended to kill him and install/replace him with a "Nazi" fake pope. Hitler intended to turn all Catholic Churches (including the Vatican) along with Protestant churches into Nazi Churches that ultimately would not be Christian at all. Instead, they would all be "state Nazi Party churches" used as a means to control and brainwash the masses -- not so different than how the "Hitler Youth" organizations were used. In fact, Hitler forbid Catholic children to attend Catholic youth organizations.

6. Even the 1933 Concordat between the Vatican & the Nazis merely granted the Catholic Church the right to select her own priests & bishops without Nazi approval and to continue to preach the Catholic Faith in German Catholic Churches providing that no priest or bishop criticized Hitler or Nazism from the pulpit.

7. During WWII hundreds of thousands of Catholic priests, nuns, monks were sent to their deaths in Nazi concentration camps. 3 million Catholic Poles were murdered in Auchwitz alone. Hitler absolutely hated the Catholic Faith & Church . . .and he sought to murder all genuine Catholics he considered a threat to Nazism/Aryanism.

8. Hitler was not a Catholic by any reasonable, intelligent or common sense measure. The only reason Hitler did not take control of the Vatican and kill Pius XII (and replace him with a Nazi fake/puppet pope) is because the Italian people would not have permitted it. It was Mussollini who convinced Hitler to leave Pope Pius XII alone. Musollini did that to protect his own power during WWII -- he was afraid the Italian people would turn against him if he permitted the pope to be killed and the Vatican to be taken-over by German Nazis. There was obviously the added risk of other/new Catholic-dominated nations joining with the Allies in WWII if Hitler killed (and/or replaced) the pope. So, Hitler recognized that it would be too dangerous to the Nazi war effort to risk causing a rift with Italians (and other Catholic nations) by killing/replacing the valid pope. He decided instead to wait until after he'd won the war before he took control of the Vatican, all Catholic & other Christian churches and installed a Nazi puppet pope. During WWII, Pius XII was literally a prisoner in the Vatican -- he couldn't leave Vatican City. And, Vatican City was surrounded by Nazi & Italian troops.

9. Describing Hitler as a Catholic is almost as bad as describing him as a Jew. Such descriptions are unnecessarily offensive and painful. Hitler was neither a Catholic nor a Jew. He was essentially a pagan who created and designed his own sick Aryan god & religion that was, in fact, diametrically opposed to Christianity.

10. Hitler was also an Occultist. He was superstitious and a devotee of Nostradamus' occultist predictions. The Catholic Church condemns the superstitious writings of Nostradamus as does most Christian churches. Occultism is not Christian -- The Bible specifically condemns occultism as demonic.
He was a baptized Roman Catholic and had a Roman Catholic upbringing but stopped going to church when he left home.

What kind of clothes did a bishop wear in Medieval Times?

The dress for bishops and other clergy were pretty much established during medieval times. They came to wear very much the same garments the Catholics or Eastern Orthodox do today for services. Even the names of the garments, such as the alb, cotta, and so on, have not changed.

Roman Catholic AnswerWhen they are functioning as a bishop, the bishops in the Medieval period wore exactly the same thing that they do today, well, a traditional dressed Bishop celebrating in the Extraordinary Form (in Latin). A Bishop wore a chasuble, just like a priest when celebrating Mass, at other services he would wear a cope. He wears a zucchetta (skull cap), with a biretta or mitre. Bishop's choir robes are purple, they wear a lace rocket over it. For most things Bishops wear gloves; the signs of their office are a pectoral cross and a ring. When they are in procession, preaching, or listening to the Gospel, they wear their miter and hold their crosier (shepherd's staff) in their left hand. A Bishop in the Ordinary form wears the same thing, but usually not as fancy, and usually skips the gloves, but never the skullcap, miter, pectoral cross and ring; plus the crosier if they are in Church.

Is Mass as in Church capitalized?

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What did the Catholic Church receive by the donation of Pepin?

A bunch of heartache and trouble:

The "Donation of Pepin" which was a grant of territory in Italy made by Pepin III the Short, to Pope Stephen II. Pepin's donation had its origins in the promise first made in 754 that he would donate territory in Italy to the pontiff in return for papal approval of the deposition of the last Merovingian king of the Franks and recognition of the Carolingian Dynasty. The actual grant itself was comprised of Rome and the surrounding territories that had been former holdings of the Byzantines in Italy. They lay the foundation for the Papal States. (Extracted from OSV's Encyclopedia of Catholic History - Revised, by Matthew Bunson, D.Min, c 1995, 2004 by Our Sunday Visitor Publishing Division, Our Sunday Visitor, Inc., Huntington, Indiana)

The actual land included in that donation was based on the "Donation of Constantine," a forgery written in the fifth century.

from History of the Catholic Church from the Apostolic Age to the Third Millennium, by James Hitchcock, Imprimatur: The Most Reverend Edward Rice, © 2012 by Ignatius Press, San Francisco

The Donation of Constantine: Pepin also confirmed the pope's claim to certain Italian territories, based on a document from the papal archives called the Donation of Constantine, which purportedly showed that, when the first Christian emperor moved to the East, he ceded all political authority in the West to the pope. The papacy also relied on a collection of documents later called the False Decretals-purportedly compiled by St. Isidore, the scholarly bishop of Seville (d. 636) but actually compiled 250 years later-containing alleged papal decrees from the fourth century that also showed that the popes possessed temporal power. (In premodern times, forgery was not considered as serious an offense as it later became. It was employed by people who thought that the forged document expressed a truth, even if it was not literal historical truth.)

Ironically, the "donation of Pepin" had a negative effect on the Church, in that the pope's position as a secular lord plunged the papacy even more deeply into the morass of Italian politics and made the office extremely attractive in worldly terms, helping to corrupt papal politics for the next three centuries.

How did the Catholic Church serve people in the Middle Ages?

The Catholic Church has always served people in the same way: by bringing God to the people in the sacraments, and by bringing the people to God. They baptized them, confirmed them, heard their confessions, gave them Holy Communion, married them, and buried them.

Where the first mass happening in butuan or limasawa?

The Limasawa story is a hoax The Philippines foremost hero Dr. Jose P. Rizal is on record the first Filipino and the first Philippine historiographer to have read an authentic Antonio Pigafetta account. He read the Carlo Amoretti edition of the Ambrosiana manuscript, the only Italian text of four extant manuscripts of Pigafetta's account of Magellan's voyage. Amoretti, conservator at a Milan library, had discovered in 1798 the lost Pigafetta manuscript, and in no time had his transcription of the cancelleresco script of the Ambrosiana codex. Amoretti is the unknown and unsung author of the notion Limasawa, a place name he saw on a map of Jacques N. Bellin, is Magellan's island-port Mazaua. Amoretti had not read the original story of Limasawa by Fr. Francisco Combés, S.J. who like Amoretti and Bellin had not read a single eyewitness account. W.A. Retana's edition of Combes has been digitized and published on the web at http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=philamer&cc=philamer&idno=ahz9273.0001.001&q1=Limasaua&frm=frameset&view=image&seq=5. Before Amoretti's edition what Philippine historians and historiographers had read was the false story of Magellan's circumnavigation by Giovanni Battista Ramusio, 16th century travel writer. (Go to http://www.bibliotecaitaliana.it/xtf/view?docId=bibit001323/bibit001323.xml&chunk.id=d6313e18525&toc.depth=1&toc.id=d6313e18525&brand=default) Ramusio's work, which Henry Harrisse charged is a plagiarism (see Page 250, Bibliotheca americana vetustissima. A description of works relating to America, published between 1492 and 1551, click http://www.archive.org/details/bibliothecaam00harrrich), is the source of the geographical blunder making Butuan, in 16th century geographical conception a huge portion of Mindanao stretching from Surigao ending at Quipit in Zamboanga del Norte, instead of Mazaua the anchorage of Magellan's fleet from March 28-April 4, 1521. Mazaua was a tiny isle which eyewitness Ginés de Mafra said had a circumference of 3 to 4 leguas or an area of some 39.30 square miles or up to 3930 hectares. (For the mathematical conversion of circumference/perimeter of Mazaua, go to Page 56, click http://www.xeniaeditrice.it/mazaua.pdf) Rizal was researching in 1889, almost a century after Amoretti's book came out, at the British Museum at London, for his edition of Antonio Morga's Sucesos de las Islas Filipinas (Rizal's ed. is at http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=philamer;cc=philamer;view=toc;idno=AHZ9387.0001.001) and chanced upon Amoretti. Rizal forthwith wrote on 4 February 1889 Plaridel (Marcelo H. del Pilar), urging him to tell the Filipino intellectual community to study Italian so they can read "Italian manuscripts that deal with the first coming of the Spaniards in the Philippines. A companion of Magellan writes them. As I have no time to translate them on account of my numerous chores, it would be advisable that a countryman of ours translates them into Tagalog or Spanish so that it may be known how we were in 1520. Italian is easy. In one month it can be learned with the Method of Ahn. Now I am studying Dutch." By that time a number of scholars had already repeated unthinkingly Amoretti's "Limasawa may be Mazaua." At almost every repetition Amoretti's "may be" would become "is" with increasing degree of certainty without any proof and supportive argument added. Not one recalled the axiom, "To assert is not to prove." Amoretti offered one-and only one-argument to support his assertion: That Limasawa is in Pigafetta's latitude for Mazaua, 9 deg. 40 min. North. This is invalid on several points: 1) Limasawa is not in that latitude but at 9 deg. 56 min. N; 2) There are two other fixes for Mazaua, Albo's 9 deg. 20 min. N found in the London copy. This is unknown to Philippine historians who're know only of the Albo of the Madrid copy which is found in Navarette and read by most via Robertson's English translation. The third fix is The Genoese Pilot's 9 deg. N; 3) More to the point nowhere does Combes say his Limasawa is the port of March-April 1521. Combes, whose knowledge is based on Ramusio, dismissed the Mazaua account found in Antonio de Herrera y Tordesillas. To be fair, Rizal did not endorse Amoretti's dictum. Indeed, he was oblivious to the Mazaua issue, his interest lay in ethnographical information in Amoretti. Even as he promoted the spread of Amoretti's edition, Rizal was in no way or form a promoter of the Limasawa=Mazaua idea. You can access the letter of Rizal at the website of Dr. Robert L. Yoder at http://joserizal.info/. Here is a chronological study of the evolution of the Limasawa "may be" idea from belief to orthodoxy, then myth which the National Historical Institute turned into an accidental hoax in 1998 in a "decision" of the Gancayco panel made up of retired Associate Justice Emilio Gancayco, historian Dr. Ma. Luisa T. Camagay, Atty. Bartolome C. Fernandez Jr., Dr. Samuel K. Tan, Asst. Dir. Emelita V. Almosara, and Dr. Augusto V. de Viana, secretary of the panel. Amoretti's Dictum…Tracing how a false assertion became historical orthodoxy 1667 Fr. Francisco Combés, S.J. writes a book Historia de las Islas de Mindanao, Iolo, y sus adyacentes...Madrid: Herederos de Pablo de Val, 1667. It contains a 3-paragraph epitome of Magellan's sojourn in Surigao Strait which says the port of March-April 1521 was Butuan, an idea lifted from Ramusio. There is no mention of an Easter mass on 31 March 1521. Combés talks of a cross being set up at Butuan. His three paragraphs were translated by pro-Limasawa writer, Fr. Miguel A. Bernad, and may be read at http://books.google.com/books?id=NbG7kHtBma8C&pg=PA1&dq=First+mass+in+Limasawa&ei=6w27SZi7IoLKlQS8neDVAg#PPA4,M1. Combés had not read one single primary history of Mazaua; these came out only over a century after him: Antonio Pigafetta saw print only in 1800, some 135 years after the death of Combés. The others followed much later than Pigafetta: The Genoese Pilot, 1826; Francisco Albo, 1837; Ginés de Mafra, 1920; Martín de Ayamonte,1933. In fact Combes' Limasawa unintentionally took the place of Gatighan, the waystation on Magellan's fleet sailing to Cebu. Limasawa and Gatighan are one and the same. 1800 Carlo Amoretti published his Italian transcription, revision, with notes, of Antonio Pigafetta's manuscript known as Ambrosiana codex, entitled Primo viaggio intorno al globo terracqueo ossia Ragguaglio della nauigazione alle Indie orientali per la via d' occidente fatta dal caualiere Antonio Pigafetta...sulla squadra del capit. Magaglianes negli anni 1519-1522. Ora pubblicato per la prima volta , tratto da un codice ms. della Biblioteca Ambrosiana di Milano e corredato di note da Carlo Amoretti; contiene anche: Raccolta di vocaboli fatta dal caualiere Antonio Pigafetta ne' paesi, ove durante la navigazione fece qualche dimora. Con un Transunto del Trattato di nauigazione dello stesso autore, In Milano : nella stamperia di Giuseppe Galeazzi, 1800. In two footnotes, on Pages 66 and 72, Amoretti surmised that Magellan's port--which he named Massana and appears otherwise as Mazaua or Mazzaua in the clear calligraphic writing of the Beinecke-Yale codex, where the Armada de Molucca anchored from March 28 to April 4, 1521--may be the Limassava inJacques N. Bellin's map of the Philippines. On Page 72, Amoretti offers one proof in support of his guess: the latitude of Limassava is at Pigafetta's latitude for Mazaua at 9°40' North. He was mistaken on two counts, Limasawa is at 9°56' North while Mazaua had three latitude readings by three members of the Armada, 9°40' N by Pigafetta, 9°20' N by Francisco Albo, and 9° N by the Genoese Pilot. 1801 French translation of Amoretti's edition of Ambrosiana. The two notes are on Pages 79 in the book (Page 161 in pdf). Note on latitude is on Page 87 in the book (Page 169 in pdf). Click http://gallica2.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k828291.print?premierePageChoisie=1&dernierePageChoisie=-1&formatDownload=PDF&printOrDownload=download&debutSelection=premierePage&finSelection=finOuvrage&modeAffichage=image&f=1&valueLastPage=509&nombrePage=null 1803 James Burney, Discoveries in the South Sea or Pacific Ocean, Part I, Page 61 in the book, Page 94 in the pdf, "Believed to be the island, marked in some of the present charts, Limasava, near the south end of the island of Leyte. Pigafetta calls its latitude 90 40' North, and its distance from Humunu 25 leagues. French Copy, p. 87." Click http://books.google.com/books?id=Mf0nAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=James+Burney&ei=I-a4SfelCZL-lQS6tPzuCw#PPR1,M1. 1814 John Pinkerton's English translation of Amoretti's French edition is printed. See Page 330 regarding Amoretti supposition Limasawa may be "Massana" or "Mazzana." URL: http://books.google.com.ph/books?id=WxsnAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA288&dq=Pigafetta%27s+Voyage+Round+the+World&lr=&ei=i-0xSYDtHpuKkAS526zADQ&hl=en#PPA330,M1 On latitude supposition, see Page 333, URL: http://books.google.com.ph/books?id=WxsnAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA288&dq=Pigafetta%27s+Voyage+Round+the+World&lr=&ei=i-0xSYDtHpuKkAS526zADQ&hl=en#PPA333,M1 1836 Sentence on Page 50 of An historical account of the circumnavigation of the globe, and of the progress of discovery in the Pacific Ocean, from the voyage of Magellan to the death of Cook. Illustrated by a portrait of Cook, engraved by Horsburgh after Dance; a facsimile of his observations of the transit of Venus in 1769; and twenty-one highly-finished engravings by Jackson states, "At a small island named Mazagua, and supposed to be the Limasawa of modern charts…", see http://www.archive.org/stream/historicalaccoun00edinuoft 1874 Note 1, Page 79, Lord Stanley of Alderley, The First Voyage Round the World: "The King of Butuan was also King of the Island of Massaua, between Mindanao and Samar. Note, Milan edition." Click http://digital.library.cornell.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=sea;cc=sea;idno=sea061;q1=Junk%20of%20Ciama;frm=frameset;view=image;seq=13;page=root;size=s Note 1, Page 83, Lord Stanley…: "If Massaua is the island of Limassava of Bellin's map, it is in 9 deg. 40 min. N. latitude, but in 190 deg. W. longitude from the line of demarcation. Note, Milan edition." Click http://digital.library.cornell.edu/cgi/t/text/pagevieweridx?c=sea&cc=sea&idno=sea061&q1=Junk+of+Ciama&frm=frameset&view=image&seq=169 1889 Jose Rizal tells Marcelo H. del Pilar in a letter dated February 4 to get one Filipino to study Italian as he has seen a manuscript (Carlo Amoretti's 1800 edition of Pigafetta) that talks of the Philippines at the time of the entry of Spanish in the archipelago in the 16th century. Miguel Bernad, S.J., referred to this letter in his article (http://books.google.com/books?id=NbG7kHtBma8C&pg=PA1&dq=Limasawa&ei=7K9MSY-IGY3WlQTLpKzWBA#PPA18,M1) but failed to see its import; Bernad and all historians who have worked on this problem never saw this book as the source of the "Limasawa may be Mazaua" notion. Click http://joserizal.info/Writings/Letters/Reformer/ref_ltrs_1889_a.htm#104._%C2%A0Rizal,_London,_4_February_18____To_Marcelo_H._del_Pilar 1890 José Toribio Medina, Chilean historian, published the first Spanish translation of Carlo Amoretti's French edition of Antonio Pigafetta's Ambrosiana codex, in Colección de documentos ineditos para la historia de Chile, Tomo II, Pp. 417-524. This is the Pigafetta read by Fr. Pablo Pastells, S.J., which he cites in his edition of Francisco Colin's Labor evangelica de los obreros de la Compañia de Jesus en las islas Filipinas (1904). This has yet to be digitized and published on the Web. -- F.H.H. Guillemard, The Life of Ferdinand Magellan and the First Circumnavigation of the Globe 1480-1521, states on Page228-29, "[The fleet] arrived on the morning of March 28th at Mazzava or Mazaba, a small island which now appears upon the charts as Limassaua." Guillemard's biography even now is viewed as the premier biography in English on Magellan and has had deep impact on succeeding works on the circumnavigation. Guillemard was a meticulous, lucid thinker who observed rigorously the canon of evidence and logic. See http://ia341027.us.archive.org//load_djvu_applet.cgi?file=1/items/lifeofferdinandm00guilrich/lifeofferdinandm00guilrich.djvu. 1897 Wenceslao E. Retana came out with an edition of Historia de Mindanao y Joló: por el p. Francisco Combés…Obra publicada en Madrid en 1667, y que ahora con la colaboración del p. Pablo Pastells ... sanca nuevamente á luz W. E. Retana. In a note, written by Pastells, it asserts the first mass was not held at Butuan but does not say it was in Limasaua, as Combés story is silent on this. Combés only talks of a cross being set up in Butuan which is his port for the March-April 4 period. See http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=philamer;cc=philamer;q1=Messana;rgn=full%20text;idno=aqn8199.0001.001;didno=aqn8199.0001.001;view=image;seq=00000078 1899 In Manuel Walls y Merino Spanish translation of Amoretti, Primer viaje al rededor el mundo, from the combined Italian, French, and English texts, footnote 67 on Pages 135-136 states: "Según este relato, parece evidente que la primera misa que se celebró en el archipiélago Filipino, lo fué en la isla que hoy se llama Limasaua." To be precise, Amoretti's words were tentative if probabilistic, "The King of Butuan was at the same time King of Massana, or Mazzana, probably the Limassava or Bellin." Click http://books.google.com.ph/books?id=WxsnAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA288&dq=Pigafetta%27s+Voyage+Round+the+World&lr=&ei=i-0xSYDtHpuKkAS526zADQ&hl=en#PPA330,M1 1903 Note 25, Vol. 2, Blair & Robertson, Page 64, states: "Regarding Mazaua (Massava, Mazagua) Stanley cites-in First Voyage by Magellan (Hakluyt Society Publications, no. 52), P. 79-a note in Milan edition of Pigafetta's relation, locating Massaua between Mindanao and Samar. It is doubtless the Limasaua of the present day, off the south point of Leyte." This is called in logic the fallacy of hyperbole. The idea Limasawa=Mazaua was never "doubtless" and there was never any proof nor is there today to back it up. Click http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=philamer;cc=philamer;idno=afk2830.0001.002;size=l;frm=frameset;seq=66. In Footnote 59, Page 193, of "Relation of the Western Islands Called Filipinas" by Captain Artieda, Vol. 3, BR, Robertson asserts, "Mazoga is the same as Massava of other early writers; it is now Limasaua Island." See http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=philamer;cc=philamer;idno=afk2830.0001.003;q1=Limasaua;size=S;frm=frameset;seq=191. 1906 Note 263, Vol. 33, B&R, "In MS. 5,650, 'Mazzaua;" in Eden, 'Messana;' in Mosto, 'Mazana,' while in the chart it appears as 'Mazzana;' Transylvanus, 'Massana;' and Albo, 'Masava.' It is now called the island of Limasaua, and has an area of about ten and one-half square miles." Click http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=philamer;cc=philamer;idno=afk2830.0001.033;q1=Mazzana;size=s;frm=frameset;seq=336. Robertson has been mistaken by some in the Philippines as the first to assert Limasaua is Mazaua, citing above as authority. Not to put too fine a point on it, it was Robertson's endorsement of the Kalantiaw Code, in an international conference in San Francisco, U.S.A., that ensured acceptance of this greatest hoax in Philippine history. Go to http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=philamer&cc=philamer&idno=afj6028.0001.001&q1=The+Pacific+Ocean+in+History&frm=frameset&view=image&seq=170. 1908 Committee made up by Trinidad Herminigildo Pardo de Tavera, Dr. Najeeb Mitry Saleeby, Carlos Everett Conant and Emerson B. Christie revised map of "The World Book Co." and spelled the name "Limasawa" by way of resolving the confusion of the many names the supposed anchorage of Magellan's fleet was then known to have, i.e., Limasaoa, Limasaua, Limasana, Limasava, Limasagua, Dimasaua, Dimasawa, Dimasagua, Simasaua, Masaua. This orthography was adopted by government's "Philippine Committee on Geographical Names" which was created in 1903 by Exec. Order No. 95 signed by American Civil Governor William Howard Taft. Tavera was its first chair. The Committee's thinking was wholly based on Tavera's one-sentence dictum that the mass of March 31, 1521 was not in Butuan but in Limasaua. No one traced this notion to "the Milan edition" and precisely to Amoretti. The discussion on how the Committee arrived at "Limasawa" go to http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=philamer;cc=philamer;q1=Limasawa;rgn=full%20text;idno=aqp4775.0001.001;didno=AQP4775.0001.001;view=image;seq=192;page=root;size=s;frm=frameset; Succeeding writings on Mazaua geography, referred to in Philippine historiography almost exclusively as "The site of the first mass…" including the pronunciamentos of the National Historical Institute from 1950 up to today, 25 May 2009, have been fossilized on this bedrock of Limasawa thinking-the one sentence Tavera remark which proves nothing, and is not even a clear notion of the historical fact it seeks to establish. 1996 Vicente Calibo de Jesus (http://www.google.com.ph/search?q=Vicente+Calibo+de+Jesus&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a) in a study submitted to the National Historical Institute, challenges the validity of the framework, "Where is the site of the first mass, Limasawa or Butuan?" He traces the Butuan error to Giovanni Battista Ramusio--as earlier pointed out by W. H. Scott in a short piece at Kinaadman, a journal published by Xavier U of Cagayan de Oro City-who mystifyingly and inexplicably replaced Mazaua, the island port, with Butuan which is not an island. De Jesus also traced the Limasawa error to Amoretti. The proposition, he points out, consists of the logical fallacy of the false dichotomous question which asks the reader to pick between two false options, Limasawa whose story has no reference to a mass and Butuan which is not an island and comes from a translation blunder. The solution, the study suggests, is to list all properties of Mazaua an operation called analytical definition. Only after making such an inventory should one ask, "Magellan's port, Mazaua: Is it Limasawa or Butuan?" In fact one will not ask that question anymore after a simple historiographical review of the literature. It also adds for the first time the revolutionary insights of Gines de Mafra, the only crewmember in Magellan's fleet, to return to Mazaua staying there for four to six months in 1543, and writing his account after his second stay. 1998 The NHI officially proclaims once more, for the 4th time, Mazaua was Limasawa; that the Ginés de Mafra account was fake even as it fully knew it's not; it decides the discussion must still be "Where is the site of the first mass…?" and so proceeded to shown Butuan was not the port of March-April 1521. The NHI "decision" is published on several sites on the Web, e.g., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:First_mass_in_the_Philippines, http://en.wikipilipinas.org/index.php?title=Talk:Gines_de_Mafra. 2000 De Jesus brings the Mazaua issue to an international audience, The Society for the History of Discoveries, at its annual conference on October 13, 2000 held at the U.S. Library of Congress, Washington D.C. (Go to http://www.sochistdisc.org/annual_meetings/annual_2000/annual_meeting_2000_abstracts.htm) It was a deliberate move to yank Mazaua outside the stranglehold of casuists who have no bona fides in the first place. He reframed the issue out of its religious mooring which has served to obfuscate discussion, placing it in the context of the history of navigation, geography, exploration, discovery, archaeology. He predicted Mazaua will be found at latitude 9 degrees North, based on the correlation of testimonies of Pigafetta, Albo, The Genoese Pilot, Martin de Ayamonte, using de Mafra's testimony as the axial unifying, harmonizing, correlating principle to make a compelling historical fact. His paper, and its revised edition, are published on various sites, e.g., http://firstcircumnavigator.tripod.com/Mazaua.htm, http://butuanon.org/essays/vdjmazaua.htm, http://www.cebuasia.com/2008/02/08/cebuasia-unveils-vicente-de-jesus-mazaua-magellans-lost-harbor/, butuanon.org/essays/MarineScienceInstitutePaper.pdf, www.xeniaeditrice.it. 2001 A group of geologists, archaeologists led by the Philippines first geomorphologist, Dr. Ricarte S. Javelosa, discovers an isle exactly as predicted. The isle consists of the geo-political entities of Barangays Pinamanculan and Bancasi in Butuan City. Artefacts are found showing the isle was inhabited before the Spanish entrada. A bronze pestle, of European provenance, was also dug up at the isle but it hasn't been dated. A comprehensive excavation at a cove where most likely the Mazaua village was located has yet to be undertaken. This scientific investigation is discussed on Page 74 of his paper above. 2008 The National Historical Institute calls for another talk exercise although this time it obviously has learned, from my advice, that "Where is the site…?" is not a valid proposition. NHI refuses to apologize for its falsification of history, it pretends it has not done anything wrong, it assumes no new ground has been gained that removed the issue away from local, parochial, insular historiography and into global archaeology, nuclear science, geomorphology, and other allied physical sciences. It still operates under the delusion, as stated by former NHI Chair Samuel K. Tan and reaffirmed by its current Chair Ambeth Ocampo, that only NHI can proclaim "the ultimate truth" of any historical issue. No civilized group of historians has had to work under the weight of such self-delusion. And it forgets for over half a century it has been proclaiming out of incompetence and lack of true scholarship the ultimate untruth, that Limasawa is Mazaua. In 1998 it did this with impunity and lack of integrity. It might be apropos to remind NHI that no one among its rank has any bona fides in navigation history; and since Mazaua has become a legitimate issue among the world's experts in the history of geography, navigation, cartography, etc. shouldn't NHI first show its credentials before it enters the discussion? It may be in order, as a matter of punctilio to ask, What are the bona fides of NHI to enter the global discussion on Mazaua? Never mind if it has no credentials to sit in judgment which in any case is no way to find solution in a globlalized setting. For over half a century NHI has been asking the wrong question, "Where is the site …?" For more than 50 years it never knew "Limasaua" was an invention of one man who had not read a single firsthand account and who rejected the authentic story of Mazaua by Antonio de Herrera. That it never found out in all these years that the Butuan landfall was an error of the author of a 1536 Italian retranslation of Pigafetta that Giovanni Battista Ramusio plagiarized and grabbed in 1563 as his own, 27 years after it first appeared in print for three times anonymously. For over 50 years NHI never got wind of the fact Amoretti is the author of the Limasawa=Mazaua notion out of ignorance of meaning of the Combes' coined word "Limasawa." For all these years NHI did not know there was a crewmember of Magellan's fleet who wrote about Mazaua after his second visit to the isle and a stay of about six months. Not only did it not know, but when faced with Gines de Mafra's account NHI rejected it as fake, even as it knew fully well it was authentic. This is ignorance made unforgivable by its utter dishonesty. In today's globalized world what are its bona fides to make it worthy to sit as a reliable, upright, earnest, honest, competent, rational participant in the international conversation on Magellan's island-port?

VICENTE CALIBO DE JESUS

ginesdemafra@gmail.com

Why did Henry viii split from the catholic church?

Because he wanted a divorce from his first wife and the Catholic church wouldn't let him.

--------------------------------Why did henry split from the Church?

Short answer is , he didn't! Henry simply followed the teachings of the ancient Church and pointed out,virtually, that the Pope had no authority outside his own See,Rome! Te Bishop of Romewas so incensed at being unmasked that he withdrew from Communion with Henry!

What were the relics of the Medieval Church?

Relics in any church, of the middle ages or now, are the bones of saints placed in the altar stone. This custom originated with in the early years of the church when Mass was said on the tombs of the saints in the catacombs.

Relics were, and still are, displayed also in ornate reliquaries in some churches, especially in Europe, for the faithful to venerate. Others are displayed only on the feast days of the saint. It is unfortunate that our modern 'progressive' clergy has, for the most part, abandoned this ancient practice. The veneration of relics dates back to the time of the apostles.

What is an example of Catholic cultural relativism?

Cultural Relativism: The belief that the value systems of different cultures cannot be measured by the value systems of a different culture. -- Example: If one culture presses criminal charges against a rapist for committing a rape and another culture presses charges against the rape victim for allowing herself to be raped, these are both acceptable value systems that come from different cultures.

Where did Martin Luther hide from the Church?

A:

Martin Luther never hid from the pope. He was offerred safe conduct to stand trial in Rome, but understandably refused, citing what had happened to Jan Huss who had also been promised safe conduct but ended up burnt at the stake. He remained in Germany, where he was relatively safe.

If the catholic church had undertaken reform do you think that the Protestant Reformation would have occurred?

It is possible that if the Catholic church had undertaken reform that the Protestant Reformation would not have occurred. This is because the Protestants were fed up with the Catholic clergy abusing their power and behaving corruptly.

What was the response of the Catholic Church to the protestant revolt?

Roman Catholic Answer

The Catholic response to the protestant revolt is called the "Counter Reformation"

from A Catholic Dictionary, edited by Donald Attwater, Second edition, revised 1957

The Counter-Reformation is the name given to the Catholic movement of reform and activity which lasted for about one hundred years from the beginning of the Council of Trent (q.v., 1545), and was the belated answer to the threatening confusion and increasing attacks of the previous years. It was the work principally of the Popes St. Pius V and Gregory XIII and the Council itself in the sphere of authority, of SS. Philip Neri and Charles Borromeo in the reform of the clergy and of life, of St. Ignatius and the Jesuits in apostolic activity of St. Francis Xavier in foreign missions, and of St. Teresa in the purely contemplative life which lies behind them all. But these were not the only names nor was it a movement of a few only; the whole Church emerged from the 15th century purified and revivified. On the other hand, it was a reformation rather than a restoration; the unity of western Christendom was destroyed; the Church militant (those still on earth) led by the Company of Jesus adopted offence as the best means of defence and, though she gained as much as she lost in some sense, the Church did not recover the exercise of her former spiritual supremacy in actuality.

Who leads the services in a Roman Catholic Church?

Roman Catholic AnswerThe Bishop has the fullness of Christ's priesthood and leads His Diocese. He appoints priests, who share in his priesthood, and lead the individual parishes. The primary "service" for a Catholic is the Holy Mass, called the Eucharist, and it can only be celebrated by a priest or Bishop.

Was Henry VIII Catholic or protestant?

Protestantism is basically shunning of the Catholic church and all its doctrines and dogma. Protestants believe that the Catholic church in Rome should have no power over government and monarchy.So based on that last statement and having read enough about Henry to venture an opinion I would say he was always a protestant he just didnt know it until it worked in his favour